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Re: Telegram introduces feature to prevent users from texting too often in a group

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Post by room505 »

pranau wrote: post #92
room505 wrote: post #69

What does everyone think of Microsoft Kaizala? It meets HIPPA requirements and you can backup your messages. It has a lot of group chat features. It also has a beta web chat. I've heard a lot of people in India are moving to it for personal and work chat ilo WhatsApp.

> I've heard a lot of people in India are moving to it for personal and work chat ilo WhatsApp. I'm from India and I had to go look up what you were talking about. Literally the first time I'm hearing about this. I am also pretty sure that not many have moved to it from WhatsApp. Truth is, after so many years I am just now seeing the slow growth of Telegram amongst the city crowd.

From what I've read, it was developed in India under Microsoft Garage. It's being used more for business.

Re: Telegram introduces feature to prevent users from texting too often in a group

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Post by techntoke »

room505 wrote: post #69

What does everyone think of Microsoft Kaizala? It meets HIPPA requirements and you can backup your messages. It has a lot of group chat features. It also has a beta web chat. I've heard a lot of people in India are moving to it for personal and work chat ilo WhatsApp.

I think of it like Microsoft Windows. It isn't open source, and truly auditable at-will by independent researchers, so I have no reason to trust it.

Re: Telegram introduces feature to prevent users from texting too often in a group

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Post by room505 »

johnm1019 wrote: post #109
room505 wrote: post #69

What does everyone think of Microsoft Kaizala? It meets HIPPA requirements and you can backup your messages. It has a lot of group chat features. It also has a beta web chat. I've heard a lot of people in India are moving to it for personal and work chat ilo WhatsApp.

I will ask the ignorant question, why Kaizala and not MS Teams? It also has groups, DMs, picture messaging, office integration, etc... I feel rather overwhelmed lately with all the various messaging options on the market with the same company often having multiple solutions.

I don't work for Microsoft, so I couldn't tell you why. From what I understand though, (I haven't used Kaizala yet, but use Teams at work) Teams uses AD, whereas Kaizala only needs a registered phone number.

Re: Telegram introduces feature to prevent users from texting too often in a group

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Post by techntoke »

flixic wrote: post #46
zzzcpan wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not even on f-droid. You install the binary they control and connect to the servers they run, it's literally a proprietary app, just like Telegram.

App being open-source means you can compile and build it yourself. They've also gone to extreme lengths to prove that the software running on their servers has not been tampered with: https://signal.org/blog/private-contact-discovery/#trust-but... I think your doubts create very unreasonable expectations for Signal.

Telegram can be built locally too, and there are independent apps for it, and they have taken efforts within the security community to prove that it is secure.

Re: Telegram introduces feature to prevent users from texting too often in a group

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Post by dmix »

johnm1019 wrote: post #109
room505 wrote: post #69

What does everyone think of Microsoft Kaizala? It meets HIPPA requirements and you can backup your messages. It has a lot of group chat features. It also has a beta web chat. I've heard a lot of people in India are moving to it for personal and work chat ilo WhatsApp.

I will ask the ignorant question, why Kaizala and not MS Teams? It also has groups, DMs, picture messaging, office integration, etc... I feel rather overwhelmed lately with all the various messaging options on the market with the same company often having multiple solutions.

India is WhatsApp's biggest market too.

Re: Telegram introduces feature to prevent users from texting too often in a group

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Post by qqn »

johnnycab wrote: post #82

Telegram is a great way to read HN articles, by subscribing to the channel, especially if you can't onboard enough people in your circle, to use it as a primary messenger. It also fires up on iPad, unlike WhatsApp.

I like https://t.me/hacker_news_feed, it posts only the articles that have a score of 100+ so you don't get flooded by goodness, it just trickles in ; )

... in fact, this is so useful I think it merits its own HN post!

Re: Telegram introduces feature to prevent users from texting too often in a group

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Post by fernandotakai »

forinti wrote: post #11
Aloha wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Telegram wins for me, because desktop is a first class citizen.

That and it's dead easy to write a bot.

yup. i wrote a simple one for my group of friends (i was also playing around with asyncio for the first time) and it took me less than an afternoon.

Re: Telegram introduces feature to prevent users from texting too often in a group

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Post by gsich »

skinnymuch wrote: post #104
codedokode wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slack is an Electron app, taking about 400-500 Mb of memory and it won't be good no matter if it is secure or not. Also, its UI is over-complicated and looks like it was made by a programmer instead of a designer (by the way, Telegram is the opposite: it is written with Qt and has nicer UI).

Slack is only an electron app on desktops. It’s not just an electron app, at all.

Desktop first is a sane assumption.

Re: Telegram introduces feature to prevent users from texting too often in a group

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Post by pitsi »

jjeaff wrote: post #6
nikivi wrote: post #2

Boggles my mind how WhatsApp is still a more popular messenger than Telegram by a long shot. Talk about network effects and people not doing their research. Or not caring about UX.

I mean, your choice is between an app owned by Facebook or an app owned by the creators of the largest social network in Russia. I'm surprised more aren't using Signal, open source, and I believe funded by a non-profit organization. With founders that are known to care about organizational transparency and user privacy.

Signal could help themselves by making their product a bit more accessible. And I'm not buying the "e2e encryption would get compromised" arg, other have figure it out. I'm talking about the fact that some of us can't install their desktop app on our work machines, or use Chromebooks, or use tablets. Give us a web interface ffs!

Re: Telegram introduces feature to prevent users from texting too often in a group

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Post by mattnguyen »

A growing number of people and organizations are starting to choose Telegram over Slack. This became prevalent in the blockchain space where pretty much everyone prefers Telegram to other messaging apps. OTC brokers, quant funds, and the largest exchanges use Telegram in some capacity, some almost exclusively.

Since the official Telegram clients are open source and the org encourages open competition between third party clients, it's now possible to build a Slack-like experience with workspaces, folders, integrations, and hot keys. Telefuel.com is one example.

As Telegram launches their $1.7bn blockchain by eoy, it'll be interesting to see how they develop their crypto-economy. There seems to be a bit of development activity in various Telegram groups, but there's still a cloud of secrecy about the whole thing.

Disclosure - I cofounded Telefuel.

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