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The Problem at Yale Is Not Free Speech

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Re: The Problem at Yale Is Not Free Speech

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Post by ryanmonroe »

DenisM wrote: post #11

The articles contends the rich kids at Yale pretend to be poor to shirk the elite responsibilities, which then leads to deterioration of the elites. I find it doubtful that the kids have thought it through that far. A couple of more likely explanations come to mind: - Rebellious teenagers always want to establish independence from their parents. Giving up part of the money takes you part of the way there. - It's hard…

The article's explanations for why rich people pretend to be poor are exactly the "more likely" explanations you say that it misses. The article is saying that shirking responsibility is a side effect.

Quotes from the article:

> Rich people pretend to be poor to fit in

> They want independence from their parents

Re: The Problem at Yale Is Not Free Speech

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Post by Ismair »

Economic inequality is at its highest level since 1928 and is about to increase even more due to automation, this climate of victimization/identity politics is being increasingly forced at a higher level by corporations, a simple way to build goodwill in the public opinion and feel that they are in the right.

Re: The Problem at Yale Is Not Free Speech

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Post by buboard »

DenisM wrote: post #11

The articles contends the rich kids at Yale pretend to be poor to shirk the elite responsibilities, which then leads to deterioration of the elites. I find it doubtful that the kids have thought it through that far. A couple of more likely explanations come to mind: - Rebellious teenagers always want to establish independence from their parents. Giving up part of the money takes you part of the way there. - It's hard…

Also, middle class struggle makes life more meaningful.

Re: The Problem at Yale Is Not Free Speech

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Post by godzillabrennus »

DenisM wrote: post #11

The articles contends the rich kids at Yale pretend to be poor to shirk the elite responsibilities, which then leads to deterioration of the elites. I find it doubtful that the kids have thought it through that far. A couple of more likely explanations come to mind: - Rebellious teenagers always want to establish independence from their parents. Giving up part of the money takes you part of the way there. - It's hard…

Hopefully the fight turns to sucking carbon out of the air and creating a sustainable future.

Re: The Problem at Yale Is Not Free Speech

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Post by horseradishh »

godzillabrennus wrote: post #35
DenisM wrote: post #11

The articles contends the rich kids at Yale pretend to be poor to shirk the elite responsibilities, which then leads to deterioration of the elites. I find it doubtful that the kids have thought it through that far. A couple of more likely explanations come to mind: - Rebellious teenagers always want to establish independence from their parents. Giving up part of the money takes you part of the way there. - It's hard…

Hopefully the fight turns to sucking carbon out of the air and creating a sustainable future.

Sigh, another brainwashed person who believes that carbon is harmful when in reality it's the most important thing for life...

Re: The Problem at Yale Is Not Free Speech

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Post by barry-cotter »

Ismair wrote: post #32

Economic inequality is at its highest level since 1928 and is about to increase even more due to automation, this climate of victimization/identity politics is being increasingly forced at a higher level by corporations, a simple way to build goodwill in the public opinion and feel that they are in the right.

Indeed, and we can solve it as it was solved in 1929, through massive economic mismanagement. If the money supply is contracted by a third again we’re guaranteed a large destruction in wealth, reducing inequality. We could use one of the other ways we know work historically too, war or famine. After the Black Death killed 30-60% of the European population there was over 100 years of broad based prosperity, similarly after the Plague of Justinian, the fall of the Western Roman Empire or in Germany following the 30 Years War.

Global inequality has been deceasing for decades.

https://ourworldindata.org/global-economic-inequality

> Global inequality is driven by changes both of the inequality within countries and the inequality between countries. The below visualization shows how both of these changes determine the changing global inequality.

> – Inequality within countries followed a U-shape pattern over the course of the 20th century.

> – Inequality between countries increased over the course of 2 centuries and reached its peak level in the 1980s according to the data from Bourguignon and Morrison shown here. Since then, inequality between countries has declined.

> As is shown in the visualization below, the inequality of incomes between different countries is much higher than the inequality within countries. The consequence of this is that the trend of global inequality is very much driven by what is happening to the inequality between countries.

Re: The Problem at Yale Is Not Free Speech

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Post by lancebeet »

neilv wrote: post #14

One thing that struck me from the piece (what I could read, before switching to skimming) was the implicit acceptance of the outsized power of Yale people. It sounded like the concern was that they acknowledge and wield this power well. I didn't see a question of whether they should have this power.

Articles questioning who ought to have power are a lot more common. I found it refreshing that the author left that out to focus on just the issue of what those in power should do. That question may be at least as important, given that those with wealth and power are unlikely to let go of said wealth and power, regardless of what the rest of society may think.
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