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Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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0-60 is pretty useless and easy to achieve. Good handling is much harder to achieve and requires more development. I would expect a Porsche to handle much better than tesla.

> 0-60 is pretty useless I completely disagree. Quarter mile times with terminal speed over 100 is useless. 10/10 at the limit adhesion differences are useless. 0-60 is useful almost every time you get in the car. Nicest part about an EV? You pretty much get to choose your lane if you are first at the stop light. No making loud engine noises. Just floor the accelerator and choose what lane you want. That's the most p…

I'd say I care much more about 60-0 and 40-70 than 0-60. Those are both much more indicative of how good the car is in real world scenarios on the road where a performance car might be worth having (overtaking slow moving car, emergency braking).

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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I would assume Porsche to be able to launch a car with an equivalent of production hell, so.

The big question would be where will they source all of those batteries?

"VW secures US$25B in battery supplies in electric-car surge" https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/vw-secures-25-billion-battery-su...

"Volkswagen will invest almost 1 billion euros ($1.1 billion) in battery cell production at a facility in western Germany" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-electric/volks...

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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post #105

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The big question would be where will they source all of those batteries?

"VW secures US$25B in battery supplies in electric-car surge" https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/vw-secures-25-billion-battery-su... "Volkswagen will invest almost 1 billion euros ($1.1 billion) in battery cell production at a facility in western Germany" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-electric/volks...

Cool, I read those a while back. Where will be the the factory located at and when is the ETA for completion? Have they broke ground yet?

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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I really wish everyone was competing on efficiency. Most journeys require nowhere near the range capabilities of current EVs, instead carrying around excess weight when not required. Similarly on the acceleration side, other than showing off, why do we need cars that can do 0-60 in 2-3 seconds? Those kinds of g-forces are certainly not pleasant for passengers.

>>>why do we need cars that can do 0-60 in 2-3 seconds So you can pass cars that are driving too slow in the fastlane at highway speeds. 0-60 times are a general indication of the car's torque curve and power delivery. Depending on gearing, there's a pretty good chance a car with crazy-good acceleration will have no problems "bobbing and weaving" around some slowpoke in front of you without requiring hundreds of mete…

> impromptu drag race with a random motorist

Reckless driving like this consistently kills innocent people and most drivers who do this eventually end up losing their license or ending up in jail.

Not sure it's the sort of target demographic car companies should be looking at.

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100% agree with you, I feel like I get treated like a luddite when I tell people I’m not really a huge fan of Tesla. I’ve been looking forward to the Germans entering the electric car market for real. Should force everyone to step up their game.

> I’ve been looking forward to the Germans entering the electric car market for real. Should force everyone to step up their game. So was I. The Audi e-tron was supposed to be that, but I've been massively disillusioned by it's horrible efficiency, high price and inability to produce in volume.

Not sure why people don't bring up the Mercedes EQC400.

Reviews have been generally excellent so far.

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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Glad to see competition finally coming around. That said I still wonder if they're holding back here to not cannibalize other lines. The 0-60 in the 3.5s range is over a full second off Tesla's best and for a performance brand seems like you want to be more in line with Tesla.

Does it really matter when 80% of these will be stuck in bumper to bumper traffic on 280 near Sand Hill Road?

Lower amount of exhaust gasses to "enjoy" in a proper traffic jam...

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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Is the original Tesla founder who was ousted by Elon somehow involved in this? I remember he went to VW afterwards...

You're thinking of Martin Eberhard, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Eberhard:

"In 2010, Martin Eberhard confirmed to Autoblog Green that he was doing work with Volkswagen, but no further details have been provided [...] Later, he worked at Lucid Motors, a startup funded by LeEco and others which was created to compete with Tesla, until 2015 [...] In 2017, Eberhard founded inEVit in a bid to supply major OEMs with electric drivetrains and power storage solutions. [...] In October, 2017, Eberhard joined Sokon Industry Group when that company acquired Inevit. This branch was renamed SF Motors."

Re: Porsche Taycan [video]

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So I want this with a drop top and 2 seats, so basically a Boxster. Let us see who gets there first with a proper roadster. Tesla or Porsche. I will be the first in line. Yes it is a stupid use of money, but the inter teenage boy does not care.
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