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Google Will Become an AI Company

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Re: Google Will Become an AI Company

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post #74

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I hope they are further away. For me a bus is self driving car, but driving a car is also a pleasure not only the means to get from a point A to a point B.

Presumably autonomous cars would not replace the ones on closed courses, and you could still enjoy driving a car the way you enjoy all other pleasures which require specialized equipment and facilities.

Absolutely. Cars will be the LPs of the 2050's

Re: Google Will Become an AI Company

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Did no one stop to think about this? It is extremely far-fetched at best. >safety regulations could be greatly relaxed. No, at least not if the author's vision of 200mph average speeds is to be taken. When a mistake or malfunction happens at that speed, safety mechanisms will be imperative. Furthermore, having a mechanical car does not prevent: someone else running into you, a deer running in front of the car, etc. >…

You really shouldn't complain about someone not having any facts and then fail to provide them yourself. Watch, I'll do the same thing: >No, at least not if the author's vision of 200mph average speeds is to be taken. When a mistake or malfunction happens at that speed, safety mechanisms will be imperative. Furthermore, having a mechanical car does not prevent: someone else running into you, a deer running in front o…

  > since a single lane is all you need since accidents will
  > become exceedingly rare.
So you've got a single-lane highway, packed with cars going 200mph? Accidents will be exceedingly rare? No matter how rare that accidents end up being, they will be national (if not international) news stories just due to the amount of cars/injuries/deaths involved. How many people are willing to hop right back onto a theme-park roller coaster right after one of the cars flew off and killed everyone riding in it? Terrorist attacks on the level of 9/11 are exceedingly rare, but that doesn't stop all kinds of silliness from spawning from it.

  > Future cars will be much more efficient, and will be electric so
  > the delivery mechanism will be more efficient as well.
This is like the assumption that there is no need to spend all kinds of time worrying about alternative fuel sources, because as the price of oil goes up people will just auto-magically develop new and more efficient fuel sources. It's a law of nature, don't-ya-know! Housing prices will always keep rising. The economy will always keep growing. Trends are always positive, never negative. Inflection points are a thing of the past! We've optimized them out of the system. They now only exist in history books.

Re: Google Will Become an AI Company

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post #142
post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You really shouldn't complain about someone not having any facts and then fail to provide them yourself. Watch, I'll do the same thing: >No, at least not if the author's vision of 200mph average speeds is to be taken. When a mistake or malfunction happens at that speed, safety mechanisms will be imperative. Furthermore, having a mechanical car does not prevent: someone else running into you, a deer running in front o…

> since a single lane is all you need since accidents will > become exceedingly rare. So you've got a single-lane highway, packed with cars going 200mph? Accidents will be exceedingly rare? No matter how rare that accidents end up being, they will be national (if not international) news stories just due to the amount of cars/injuries/deaths involved. How many people are willing to hop right back onto a theme-park rol…

You can see how this thread can go on forever, I think GP was making that point.

Re: Google Will Become an AI Company

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2. Children could own cars. Don’t feel like schlepping your kid to soccer practice? Just buy them a car 6. ... Make my car driverless (freeing me up to watch TV, read a book, catch up on emails, etc.) and able to travel at twice the speed, and spend the entire trip at top speed (rather than slowing down and speeding up on the highway) and I could feasibly live as far as 100 mph away. 7. Urbanization will reverse. Why…

Why should we be moving away from the car? You seem to take this as an a priori fact. I see no advantages to public transit aside from less energy waste, unless you just occasionally long for the scent of hobos. And urban planning is not a solution. It's shutting the barn doors after horses got out. Most urban areas have already been not only planned but fully executed and there isn't public will to tear the whole th…

Assuming we would have driverless cars, you don't have to worry about a gigantic shell of metal that is expensive, will break down at inopportune times, requires constant maintenance, copious parking space at any destination of your choosing, insurance, contributes to crappy air quality (thankfully reduced/solved by using electric power), and for which you have to spend hours shoveling snow if you are in a colder climate. There are tons of other problems if you focus on human-driven cars: drunk drivers, the need for designated drivers, comparatively high risk of being killed or maimed, having your kids nag you or someone else if they want to experience the world outside of their neighborhood, driving course costs (oh wait, in America we don't have to pay... in Europe, well, I hope you have several thousand euros). There are so many issues that they greatly outweigh the ones in a properly-made public transit system. I see cars as being useful for out-of-city excursions (but not inter-city, just take the train) or for hauling things, but these situations are not common enough that every single adult needs to own a car.

We don't actually have to tear down and start over, and I think you underestimate the North American will to destroy old buildings. We just need to use existing buildings more intelligently, turn asphalt seas into courtyards, allocate green spaces and keep residental and commercial buildings close together. I don't expect people to actually do any of this, particularly in the US where it would be seen as a communist plot, but I'm happy there are many places in the world where there is no need for urban replanning/reorganization on a grand scale.

Re: Google Will Become an AI Company

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Did no one stop to think about this? It is extremely far-fetched at best. >safety regulations could be greatly relaxed. No, at least not if the author's vision of 200mph average speeds is to be taken. When a mistake or malfunction happens at that speed, safety mechanisms will be imperative. Furthermore, having a mechanical car does not prevent: someone else running into you, a deer running in front of the car, etc. >…

> Furthermore, do you see parents sticking their 6 year olds on the subway just because they can? No. A very few do it and get ostracized by society.

Yes, all the time in Japan. Also commonly seen in Europe.

And as a bonus tidbit---in small town America, people still hitchhike.

Re: Google Will Become an AI Company

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Contrary to what you may think, I was being thoughtful of this but did not think it required rehashing. You however, exactly reiterate my point, you didn't do any due diligence, just put certainly in italics. How about some facts instead? Simply go to maps.google.com and search for Chicago, IL to New York, NY. Ok, 14 hours trip currently. Now, let's take a premise of 200 miles per hour. Now, tell me, can you travel 2…

I get to the airport 2 hours early, plus 30 minutes driving time to and from the airport. So that puts total flying time at 5.5 hours. Add in invasive airport security, baggage fees, entertainment fees, wifi fees, parking fees, etc. For a family of 5, flying costs thousands of dollars. And once you get there, you don't have a car so you have to rent one!

We're not talking about this next year, we're talking decades away. Toll Plaza's, seriously? We have Ez Pass already, you don't think that can be upgraded to handle faster cars?

If it was between paying more for 5.5 hours of flying and paying likely less for 5, 6 or 7 hours of having a car drive me, I would choose the car every time. Heck, if the car can only average 100MPH, I'd leave at 10pm and sleep the whole way!

Re: Google Will Become an AI Company

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Did no one stop to think about this? It is extremely far-fetched at best. >safety regulations could be greatly relaxed. No, at least not if the author's vision of 200mph average speeds is to be taken. When a mistake or malfunction happens at that speed, safety mechanisms will be imperative. Furthermore, having a mechanical car does not prevent: someone else running into you, a deer running in front of the car, etc. >…

Agreed, but I could imagine one implication that might be revolutionary for urban areas. With driverless cars, it might easily become much more economical not to own a car at all. Even when one does own a car, they don't have to park it within short walking distance form their destination, as the car parks itself. Free from strict parking requirements and regualtions cities can become much more friendly to pedestrians, and buildings (especially medium-high ones) may become cheaper and more free in their design.

Re: Google Will Become an AI Company

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I'm surprised that the whole AI argument made in this post centers around self-driving cars, when the fact that google can recall for you very relevant results from its multi-billion page memory in a jiffy doesn't seem AI enough.

As for self-driving cars, it seems to me that public transport can provide much of what the poster wants. I travel by bus for about 2 hours every day -- seems taxing, but I'm productive on my rides since I always get a nice seat and can hack on.

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