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How I finally won my name from domain resellers after nine years of waiting

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Re: How I finally won my name from domain resellers after nine years of waiting

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Post by rolltiide »

prawn wrote: post #13
sergiotapia wrote: post #10

Some bottom feeder stole my personal domain after I let it lapse and is now literally holding it hostage for $6000 last I checked. http://sergiotapia.me/ I just bought sergio.dev, the squatter can choke on my old domain.

If you let it lapse, is "stole" a bit strong? I'd think "stole" would be getting your login/email and transferring the domain away while you had it registered?

Lets pick a different word that can be used in the pejorative which accurately reflects our disdain

“Domain marauders swept in”?

“Swiped it”?

Re: How I finally won my name from domain resellers after nine years of waiting

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Post by crazydoggers »

SenHeng wrote: post #82
crazydoggers wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, this. People complaining about failed renewals always leave this out. On top of not noticing renewal notices, there’s a 45 day renewal grace period where you can renew the domain after it expires. And even if you miss that, there’s another 30 redemption grace period, where you can pay a fee and have the name restored anyway. So you’re usually talking at least 2-3 months of not noticing or caring. Registrars are…

It happens sometimes. I once owned a domain via MediaTemple registered to an account that no longer existed. I tried but MT wouldn't let me renew the domain even with proof that I was the owner other account (whois contact info, cc purchase history). Only way to get that domain back was to let it expire and hope no one took it.

What do you mean by “the account no longer existed” Do you mean you no longer had access to the email? If you either have the email account or you know the password to your domain account you should be able to get in and change things/renew. Otherwise you’d have to lose both your email account and your password.

Re: How I finally won my name from domain resellers after nine years of waiting

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Post by rhizome »

yonran wrote: post #67
rhizome wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the terms by which value is measured?

In the paper by Glen Weyl linked above, the property tax should be set at about 1/normal turnover rate (e.g. 1/30 years = 3.3% per year), owners should declare their own assessed value for which they pay the tax (e.g. on the $1500 asking price in the article, the tax could be about $50/year assuming a 3.3% tax rate), and then if someone else wishes to buy the property they can purchase at the same self-assessed value…

So the holder assigns their own "make me move" price? For e.g. Disney this would be "infinity," and I've taken a math class recently enough to know that 3.3% of infinity is infinity.

Re: How I finally won my name from domain resellers after nine years of waiting

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Post by iKevinShah »

I might be late at this discussion but does anyone know how to I can win my domain name back from Yahoo Small Business?

Back Story: In 2005, when I was new to Computing world, I searched for "Free domain" and something led to another and Yahoo at the time bought the domain (while it seemed I would have to pay later). I did not use it and tried to see it in 2012 again, turns out someone was indeed using it (had same name), fair enough but now the domain is back with yahoo and I can not contact them at all. I tried their customer care [1], no reply. Also tried their forums, no reply. Cant get them on call either.

Any suggestions?

1: https://help.smallbusiness.yahoo.net/s/

Re: How I finally won my name from domain resellers after nine years of waiting

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Post by SenHeng »

crazydoggers wrote: post #122
SenHeng wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It happens sometimes. I once owned a domain via MediaTemple registered to an account that no longer existed. I tried but MT wouldn't let me renew the domain even with proof that I was the owner other account (whois contact info, cc purchase history). Only way to get that domain back was to let it expire and hope no one took it.

What do you mean by “the account no longer existed” Do you mean you no longer had access to the email? If you either have the email account or you know the password to your domain account you should be able to get in and change things/renew. Otherwise you’d have to lose both your email account and your password.

The email account no longer existed because our company shutdown and all email addresses were deleted. The MT account too was deleted using the dashboard.

After the storm settled and I got control of all remaining assets, I decided I wanted to keep the domain for sentimental value which is when I discovered that it was all gone.

Re: How I finally won my name from domain resellers after nine years of waiting

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Post by epakai »

I had a domain 2004-2006 for an online alias. I was in high school and it was just for fun. Not even valuable or interesting. I let it lapse intentionally, but then it was held by somebody for 10 years.

They finally dropped it in 2014 and someone else who had taken up the nickname registered it in 2016. I had mostly given up on the name anyway because I had collisions on a few services with 1 or 2 people using the same.

Seems so silly to hold a domain like that. Shit for traffic. Hosted only hobbyist/personal content (easily verifiable on archive.org). I certainly wasn't going to shell out anything even if I could find who was holding it. They did have a contact/interest form at some points during those 10 years, but I know there were times when there was nothing. I avoided contact because I expected showing interest in it would prolong their hold or just result in a stupid price. Just a dead domain.

Re: How I finally won my name from domain resellers after nine years of waiting

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Post by yonran »

rhizome wrote: post #123
yonran wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the paper by Glen Weyl linked above, the property tax should be set at about 1/normal turnover rate (e.g. 1/30 years = 3.3% per year), owners should declare their own assessed value for which they pay the tax (e.g. on the $1500 asking price in the article, the tax could be about $50/year assuming a 3.3% tax rate), and then if someone else wishes to buy the property they can purchase at the same self-assessed value…

So the holder assigns their own "make me move" price? For e.g. Disney this would be "infinity," and I've taken a math class recently enough to know that 3.3% of infinity is infinity.

fyi in Weyl’s book, he says that to avoid this problem, “Possessors would be allowed to group their assets into clusters and to pull them apart, as they choose.” In other words, Disney could bundle the domain with the business (which is already listed for only $243 billion, not “infinity”) http://assets.press.princeton.edu/chapters/s11222.pdf

I think in general the business should be bundled with the domain, although I think that probably there should be some oversight preventing completely unrelated domains from being bundled together.

Re: How I finally won my name from domain resellers after nine years of waiting

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Post by unreal37 »

twhb wrote: post #63
unreal37 wrote: post #36

I think a lot of people don't know what "domain squatting" is. If there's a domain you want, but someone else has it but is not using it, that's not squatting. If you let your personal name domain expire, and someone else registers it, that's not squatting. In order for it to be squatting, they have to be trying to profit off a trademark. I assume Jerry Alex is not a trademark. "Cybersquatting (also known as domain s…

People know full well what they're talking about: holding domains for profit, not any crime, not domain underuse, not domain snatching. That may not be the legal definition of "domain squatting", but neither are the common and legal definitions the same for "brief", "motion", or "harassment". US law narrowing a term doesn't make common use wrong.

I get that people misuse words sometimes, and occasionally the definition of those words changes to match the common use.

But still, squatting is not "someone bought a domain that used to be mine. And when I asked to buy it back, the price was not what I was willing to pay." It's not.

Re: How I finally won my name from domain resellers after nine years of waiting

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Post by unreal37 »

baddox wrote: post #52
unreal37 wrote: post #36

I think a lot of people don't know what "domain squatting" is. If there's a domain you want, but someone else has it but is not using it, that's not squatting. If you let your personal name domain expire, and someone else registers it, that's not squatting. In order for it to be squatting, they have to be trying to profit off a trademark. I assume Jerry Alex is not a trademark. "Cybersquatting (also known as domain s…

> If there's a domain you want, but someone else has it but is not using it, that's not squatting. If you let your personal name domain expire, and someone else registers it, that's not squatting. But these aren't mutually exclusive with your description of the legal definition of squatting, right? If someone just happens to have the same name as you, and buys your expired personal domain name to use as their persona…

If you buy faaaaacebook.com, that's probably a violation of trademark law but that's not squatting.

If you buy facebook.co and try to sell it to Facebook for $1 million, that's squatting.

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