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First and foremost, every country looks out for themselves, and who can fault one for doing that? All this shows is that the US isn't the only country that has asymmetric foreign policies and treaties. The "me no like China" chest-thumping is purely based on emotions, unless someone has actually found an actual backdoor in the 5g chips that are being considered for purchase here.
Actually no country does that. From Africian to American to Antarctican to Asian.. no one demands ip, shuts out all foreign companies, demands to be partners and than kicks you using some version of a legal system.
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They also have cooperated with GCHQ and the NSA.
It's better to risk being spied on by a country where you have lots of expats working in their tech industry. Having those expats greatly increases the likelihood of someone whistleblowing in your country's favor and someone objecting to abuses in your country's favor. There are thousands upon thousands of first and second generation Indians working in the US and UK tech industries. There are hardly any working in th…
Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked
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It was not the US that perpetrated the violence after it toppled Saddam. It was the radical elements within Iraq. They're the ones that bear responsibility.
..so what exactly are we supposed to be telling the Kurds? That the US isn't responsible for the indirect effects of occupations that were started on lies to begin with?
There is a reason why Kurdistan is one of the most peaceful and developed regions in the Middle East: they act the way you must act to be a prosperous modern people. The violent radicals who squandered the post-Saddam opportunity to build a modern Iraq are to blame for the killing and the chaos.
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For the first hundred years of their existence there was an autocratic monarchy, a civil war and a dictatorial republic. Then restoration of the monarchy and the Glorious Revolution at the end of the 17th century that actually established the principle of parliamentary government and sovereignty. Not so much absolving as didn't yet exist... The company was far more a relic of the earlier age - when the sovereign gave…
So even accepting your argument at face value (for the purposes of this argument), the British government has no blame for a company consisting of its citizens and based in it's capital starting wars for two centuries with military support from said government?
The history is incredibly complex, worthy of many books, but for the period of roughly 1600-1800 the EIC was closer to the independent Nassau privateers turned pirate than to a regulated, and at least somewhat controlled, London plc. At some point early in their existence they remodelled themselves on the VOC (Dutch EIC) model to become more state-like as the VOC was so successful. The VOC was more independent nation state until the very late 18th century too.
They both fielded armies and navies independently and distinct from Britain or the Netherlands, made and enforced treaties in their own, not national, interests, had their own systems of justice etc. Being amongst the very first stock based institutions there were no systems of oversight and control. Stocks were still traded in coffee and tea shops, despite the recently established Royal Exchange - where stockbrokers weren't allowed. It was one of those coffee shops that would eventually became the London Stock Exchange. Any regulation came much later, and slowly, and ultimately led to the disestablishment of the EIC, and the wide range of corporate and stock law.
I might also blame government for not seeking to constrain the company earlier than they did... I can't really blame them for not regulating something that was new and unknown, just as in the current era bitcoin has seen regulation start to come long after its success. Or the talk of regulating Facebook, or no end of others...
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's better to risk being spied on by a country where you have lots of expats working in their tech industry. Having those expats greatly increases the likelihood of someone whistleblowing in your country's favor and someone objecting to abuses in your country's favor. There are thousands upon thousands of first and second generation Indians working in the US and UK tech industries. There are hardly any working in th…
The CEO of Nokia Rajeev Suri is an India-born Singaporean citizen.
Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
They also have cooperated with GCHQ and the NSA.
Personally I think "the devil you know" mentality is better when considering that any Telecom tech could be compromised. Yeah everybody is probably spying, so you should get your gear from your strongest allies. Would you rather have a friend or an enemy spying on you? That appears to be the only options now that technology has thoroughly penetrated every day life. Another point not mentioned enough is that societies…
A better decision rationale would be; which of the two is more likely to use their spy-data against you?
And the answer to that is without doubt; your own local spy agency, not the one operating in another country.
Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked
#127Tit-for-tat. From my scarce knowledge of game-theory and world-politics it is generally accepted as the default move in these types of situations. But well, if India sees Huawei as security threat, shouldn't they have a quite good justification for blocking them? It's not that they are outright punishing Huawei for just existing, but that there is, in their opinion, a real cause for them to fear Huawei of spying thei…
Only problem is trade isn’t a game.
Or, to put it another way, you have no idea when your opponent will stop playing this game and start playing another one.
Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked
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>Nokia has ever been accused or guilty of spying Which Nokia timeline are you talking about? The current Nokia HMD which outsources to China and was found to have Chinese botnet in them ?
You seem to misremember what that scandal was about, or maybe you read a particularly hysterical article that misrepresented the situation. Nokia had accidentally enabled an option intended for phones sold in China with a China Telecom contract. To verify that they were eligible for use with the contract, the phones would connect to China Telecom servers on first use. For the phones that had that option incorrectly e…
Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Personally I think "the devil you know" mentality is better when considering that any Telecom tech could be compromised. Yeah everybody is probably spying, so you should get your gear from your strongest allies. Would you rather have a friend or an enemy spying on you? That appears to be the only options now that technology has thoroughly penetrated every day life. Another point not mentioned enough is that societies…
> Would you rather have a friend or an enemy spying on you? A better decision rationale would be; which of the two is more likely to use their spy-data against you? And the answer to that is without doubt; your own local spy agency, not the one operating in another country.
Re: China warns India of 'reverse sanctions' if Huawei is blocked
#130Tit-for-tat. From my scarce knowledge of game-theory and world-politics it is generally accepted as the default move in these types of situations. But well, if India sees Huawei as security threat, shouldn't they have a quite good justification for blocking them? It's not that they are outright punishing Huawei for just existing, but that there is, in their opinion, a real cause for them to fear Huawei of spying thei…
Works well on games. Only problem is trade isn’t a game. Or, to put it another way, you have no idea when your opponent will stop playing this game and start playing another one.