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New York City Neighbors Build Cheaper Way to Connect to Web

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Re: New York City Neighbors Build Cheaper Way to Connect to Web

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As someone who is on NYC Mesh - it’s amazing. I can’t explain the feeling you can get of pointing an antenna at a distant building and getting a ping. So great!

How was your onboarding experience? I'd love to join the mesh, but I'm pretty far from the supernodes. If you live in an apartment, did you have any issues running the wires into the building?

Re: New York City Neighbors Build Cheaper Way to Connect to Web

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There's a map of community-owned networks, more than 750 communities across the United States have embraced operating their own broadband network Map here: https://muninetworks.org/communitymap

I've tried toggling every option on that map, but it comes up with no results. Is there something I'm missing?

Re: New York City Neighbors Build Cheaper Way to Connect to Web

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There's a lot of good amateur radio mesh nets around as well - I'm in the process of setting up an antenna to join one in Orange County https://sites.google.com/site/orangecountymeshorganization/h...

We're also setting up an AREDN mesh in St. Louis, MO. Most of the fun for me is getting access to skyscrapers and installing and troubleshooting the network equipment and antennas. I'm not really sure what we're going to do with it once it's actually up. We might host a meet up on it via mumble every once in a while...post some files for hams to enjoy...but for me it's like, "cool, now what?"

Re: New York City Neighbors Build Cheaper Way to Connect to Web

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Are there similar efforts to follow in other cities? e.g Boston, SF

Yeah, see https://massmesh.org for Boston.

Is the Boston one seeing any progress (admittedly its current incarnation is rather recent)? I am moving there soon and would love to join a mesh network, but from my (superficial) reading of their materials, they do not have yet any nodes you can connect to (as a person not owning roof access for a "super node").

Re: New York City Neighbors Build Cheaper Way to Connect to Web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and possibly also to the internet. That is an excellent point. Mesh nets may be vulnerable to being monitored over the internet. I have not read the article, but I hope these groups are building privacy into their protocol. I have wanted to build something like this for decade now. It is inspiring to hear about their success.

Well, if you're using TLS it shouldn't matter if someone is monitoring, right?

Do these mesh networks support TLS? Even if they do support TLS, it might be possible for a node on the mesh to successfully carry out a SSL strip attack. Or aggregate leaked metadata from the requests that pass through it. I am not familiar with these mesh networks, there may be many lurking attack vectors if the creators are not particularly concerned with privacy / security.

Re: New York City Neighbors Build Cheaper Way to Connect to Web

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There's a map of community-owned networks, more than 750 communities across the United States have embraced operating their own broadband network Map here: https://muninetworks.org/communitymap

It really bothers me to see nothing going on in the Phoenix, Arizona region, where I live.

I'm planning on getting my Technicians HAM license sometime soon (I took one of the online practice tests "blind" and scored an 80 - so with some study it shouldn't be a problem).

Maybe after that if I can find some like-minded people nearby...

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This is a great use case for crypto. You can earn by supporting the network and spend it to use the network. It helps the incentive layer. Those supporting the network can pay for support personnel as they grow, or there can be a network tax that goes towards this. You can also decentralize the support personnel by rewarding people that successfully answer tickets and offer a premium for when questions are answered within a certain amount of time. These questions and answers would also be stored on-chain on a sidechain.

Re: New York City Neighbors Build Cheaper Way to Connect to Web

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There's a lot of good amateur radio mesh nets around as well - I'm in the process of setting up an antenna to join one in Orange County https://sites.google.com/site/orangecountymeshorganization/h...

We're also setting up an AREDN mesh in St. Louis, MO. Most of the fun for me is getting access to skyscrapers and installing and troubleshooting the network equipment and antennas. I'm not really sure what we're going to do with it once it's actually up. We might host a meet up on it via mumble every once in a while...post some files for hams to enjoy...but for me it's like, "cool, now what?"

Mumble uses TLS for everyone and every connection. Is this allowed per Part 97?

Re: New York City Neighbors Build Cheaper Way to Connect to Web

#50

I've been very intrigued by their efforts for some time now. Last time I read about NYC Mesh, it sent me down a rabbit hole of research into mesh networks and what it takes to found an ISP. I'd love to replicate their efforts in NOLA, but the legal and technical hurdles are tricky! When I had looked into it, these resources had been helpful for research: Wireless Networking in the Developing world -- http://wndw.net/…

Hey there codexarcanum, My partner and I are NOLA based programmers / lawyers who have been researching this matter for a few years. We own the domain nolamesh.net and would love to work with you to navigate the political / legal / business issues to deploy a similar network in the New Orleans metro area. Please reach out to us at nolalawcorp@gmail.com and let's set up a meeting.

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