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Launch HN: Compound (YC S19) – helping employees understand equity compensation

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Re: Launch HN: Compound (YC S19) – helping employees understand equity compensation

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This pitch reminds me of those commercials for weed whackers where people are shown acting like replacing the string is on the level of rocket science. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p22T3ZypQtA After I left my last job, I had 3 months to decide if I wanted to exercise my options. I looked at the company's financial statements, compared them to publicly traded competitors, and made my decision. If I needed tax infor…

To some people, what you just described reads no different from Lebron James saying “dunking is as simple as shoving the defender out of the way, jumping above the rim and jamming the ball down into the net.”

Re: Launch HN: Compound (YC S19) – helping employees understand equity compensation

#35
post #7

This pitch reminds me of those commercials for weed whackers where people are shown acting like replacing the string is on the level of rocket science. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p22T3ZypQtA After I left my last job, I had 3 months to decide if I wanted to exercise my options. I looked at the company's financial statements, compared them to publicly traded competitors, and made my decision. If I needed tax infor…

I think you got pretty lucky, I have been screwed out of my options twice now by shitty founders. God help you if the startup is successful and profitable, that just means they will get the really good lawyers to claw back equity by any means.

Re: Launch HN: Compound (YC S19) – helping employees understand equity compensation

#36
post #7

This pitch reminds me of those commercials for weed whackers where people are shown acting like replacing the string is on the level of rocket science. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p22T3ZypQtA After I left my last job, I had 3 months to decide if I wanted to exercise my options. I looked at the company's financial statements, compared them to publicly traded competitors, and made my decision. If I needed tax infor…

To some people, what you just described reads no different from Lebron James saying “dunking is as simple as shoving the defender out of the way, jumping above the rim and jamming the ball down into the net.”

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Re: Launch HN: Compound (YC S19) – helping employees understand equity compensation

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Congrats on making it to YC 19! Love the idea, in fact I started something similar[1] in March 2018 when I was switching job. I also heard too many stories of friends accepting early stage companies offers with little to no equity and I was hurting for them. I hope we (employees) will finally get our leverage back and fight for better equity but ALSO better liquidity! If founders get liquidity, employees should too,…

Completely agree! There is more and more liquidity these days for later stage startups! Not only are people paying up to get in, but sometimes they're paying a premium to what the last VCs paid.

Re: Launch HN: Compound (YC S19) – helping employees understand equity compensation

#38
post #7

This pitch reminds me of those commercials for weed whackers where people are shown acting like replacing the string is on the level of rocket science. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p22T3ZypQtA After I left my last job, I had 3 months to decide if I wanted to exercise my options. I looked at the company's financial statements, compared them to publicly traded competitors, and made my decision. If I needed tax infor…

We had an incentive programme consulting company for several years. Trust me, most people, including financial professionals, had a very hard time understanding even the most basic options programmes.

Re: Launch HN: Compound (YC S19) – helping employees understand equity compensation

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What incentive do you have to keep the information I provide you for a consultation confidential? If I actually give you the information you're asking for (strike price, shares outstanding, shares granted, company name, etc), you basically know far more about the cap table than anybody outside of the company should know. Additionally, most companies have NDAs that probably prevent the disclosure of this information.

If you're not an RIA, how can I trust you with this information?

Re: Launch HN: Compound (YC S19) – helping employees understand equity compensation

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I'm shocked by the comments of those here that don't see why something like this must exist and don't see that there is tremendous financial upside for whoever cracks this. Employee equity can generate unbelievable amounts of wealth as well as unbelievable tax consequences/missed opportunities. The deck is mostly stacked against employees, and you're on your own navigating treacherous waters with little information.…

>I'm shocked by the comments of those here that don't see why something like this must exist and don't see that there is tremendous financial upside for whoever cracks this.

Some of us don't live inside the Bay Area startup bubble. I've never worked for a place that has offered equity, I've worked for publicly traded companies and the government. For the vast majority of Americans (and the world) this is a situation where we will never see ourselves in, so some of us see this as a weird business idea given the incredibly limited market that relies on a booming economy resulting in VC money funding startups to survive.

As someone else in this thread said, this is a startup for startups.

I can see why YC funded it "we exist to fund startups, startups offer equity when they can't afford to pay employees fairly, of course we'll fund a startup that helps employees of startups!".

However the problem here is, YC has never existed with their current model during a recession. Y Combinator was founded in March of 2005 with what like 8 companies and a much smaller contribution, the recession started a few years later.

Fast forward to last year and they had 273 companies present at demo days between winter and summer batch, at what 150k a pop? What happens when we enter the next inevitable recession? Will accelerators like YC have 50 million dollars (given the events they put on, I imagine you can at least round up to 50 million) to fund startups at these levels? Or will they have to drastically dial back and fund considerably less companies and focus more on the continuity fund and additionally funding companies that are seeing growth?

Then enter Compound, relying entirely on startups popping up offering equity. Enter a recession and a lot of startups are likely to fail during tha tperiod because VCs will be less inclined to take on risky investments, companies and consumers will be less likely to take on buy new goods or pay for new services, and then Compound is suddenly like "whoa, if there's no startups offering equity we have no customers, we don't have any other product ideas!!!" Press Release: Company Compound has shuttered, in a noble gesture Compound posted all employee resumes on the website and urge companies to consider interviewing these now unemployed persons.

This is a problem I consistently see with YC companies and VC in general the Bay Area exists in a alternate reality, or fantasy, bubble that does not resemble the rest of the country or how most Americans lives are. That isn't sustainable. I mean you have all these SaaS companies -most Americans have no idea what software as a service is and doesn't need to have their toaster tweet that it is toasting the 17th piece of toast this week so that D0ughb0x can ship more artisanal gluten free free trade gmo free bread and notify the Ca$#p@y app that the subscriber's digital life companion Phriendly should request authorization for payment-.

Ok, maybe that example is a bit ridiculous but seriously, look at a list of the companies for the past few YC batches... there are some absolutely ridiculous ideas, most of these companies will fail miserably and would NEVER have been seeded during a recession, what happens to Compound when startup numbers plummet and they can't find customers to educate about equity?

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