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Launch HN: Compound (YC S19) – helping employees understand equity compensation

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Hi HN, we're Jacob and Jordan, the founders of Compound (https://withcompound.com/equity). We help employees understand their equity compensation.

We started Compound after seeing way too many of our friends get screwed over by startup equity.

You hear the story often: wide-eyed engineer accepts an offer and 100,000 options from an exciting startup. Woohoo! Suddenly you must make what may turn out to be the most important financial decision of your life, whether you know it yet or not: should you exercise your options?

The answer to this question depends upon many nuanced factors. Does the company allow for early exercising? If not, how long should you wait to exercise your options? When will you owe taxes? What is the Alternative Minimum Tax? How long is the exercise window if you cease employment? Will you ever qualify for the QSBS tax exemption? Will this be a qualifying disposition? Does your...wait...could you have negotiated for more equity? Do you really believe in the company? Should you even be working at an early-stage startup that you do not believe in?

Equity is really confusing. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. However, your equity is a crucial part of your compensation and is worth being scrutinized as such. Many people miss out on significant upside because they fail to familiarize themselves with key terms before it is too late.

There are 300-page books written on options but _nothing_ is personalized. Large financial institutions won’t talk to you unless you have millions of dollars in liquid assets. To make things worse, most companies do a terrible job of helping their candidates and employees understand the value of their equity. What does 100,000 options even mean? HR teams are frequently asked about equity-and tax-related matters from their employees and are forbidden from sharing useful, true things.

Jacob and I got really interested in these problems during our final year of university. We read books, consumed the entire tax code, and talked with dozens of experts. We became the de facto equity resource in our circles and helped hundreds of people with everything from negotiating offers to exercising options. This led to the start of Compound.

Over the years, there have been many proposals to fix equity compensation. There is no obvious simple answer. What is clear is that today’s system will eventually break. We are hoping Compound plays a role in the solution.

Compound is entirely focused on helping you—the employee—understand and manage your equity. We provide forecasting tools that show you how much your equity is worth, display tax implications (AMT exposure, capital gains), and model exit scenarios. We help you understand the value of your equity to make more informed exercise decisions. For the HN community, we are offering free informational consultations at (https://withcompound.com/?ref=hn)

We also encourage companies to adopt more employee-friendly equity procedures and policies. We build tools, like fair offer-letter templates and internal equity dashboards, to promote transparency within companies. If your team is interested, please send me an email to jordan@withcompound.com.

In the future, Compound will earn revenue by offering financial products. We are still hammering out these details—our mission is to help employees maximize their upsides by democratizing access to financial services currently reserved for the super-rich (tax planning, advisory, bespoke investment offerings, concierge services, etc.).

We will be releasing more guides around this topic in the near future and would really appreciate your feedback and requests. Eager to hear about HN users’ experiences, ideas, and know there is a ton of expertise among the community to learn from. Happy to answer any questions in the comments or via email jordan@withcompound.com. Thanks!

Re: Launch HN: Compound (YC S19) – helping employees understand equity compensation

#2
Isn't this peak SV bubble territory? I mean come on, Equity Comp is not that complicated, a few blog posts should get you 80% of the way to understanding it and it's certainly not complicated enough to justify needing a Startup to address it.

Re: Launch HN: Compound (YC S19) – helping employees understand equity compensation

#3
If you're affecting startup employees' (and prospectives') perceptions of compensation, how do you deal with the appearance of potential conflict of interest, as a YC startup (which presumably has an interest in hiring and compensation by its startups)?

Also, do you have some kind of official fiduciary obligation, as part of giving financial advice? And if so, to whom?

How will giving financial advice mesh with offering financial products?

(I mean these questions constructively, and I figure you have good intentions. These are merely the kinds of questions that come to my finance layperson's mind.)

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Do you have plans (even if only a few words of an idea) to do anything beyond this?

I imagine this market is pretty small, sure YC funds a bunch of startups every year but it seems like your business is almost entirely dependent on the Bay Area and maybe a handful of other locations around the globe that consistently produce startups that have to rely on compensating employees with equity instead of competitive salary. When the next recession inevitably comes, and VC money potentially dries up, it seems like your company won't fare well without other services to fall back on.

The vast majority of Americans, or people on earth in general, aren't offered equity as compensation (many aren't even offered stock purchase plans and for that matter Pew found that 41 percent of millennials didn’t even have access to an employer-sponsored retirement plan).

Not trying to be critical, just genuinely curious if you've thought about it.

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Do you have plans (even if only a few words of an idea) to do anything beyond this? I imagine this market is pretty small, sure YC funds a bunch of startups every year but it seems like your business is almost entirely dependent on the Bay Area and maybe a handful of other locations around the globe that consistently produce startups that have to rely on compensating employees with equity instead of competitive salar…

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#7
This pitch reminds me of those commercials for weed whackers where people are shown acting like replacing the string is on the level of rocket science.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p22T3ZypQtA

After I left my last job, I had 3 months to decide if I wanted to exercise my options. I looked at the company's financial statements, compared them to publicly traded competitors, and made my decision. If I needed tax information, I would have gone to the IRS website and called them if necessary. (In my experience, they try to be helpful despite the hate they receive.)

I wish you guys the best of luck, but ultimately your revenue model seems predicated on the same strategy as the rest of the financial industry--presenting a good marketing story to attract other people's money. Nobody has a crystal ball.

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post #3

If you're affecting startup employees' (and prospectives') perceptions of compensation, how do you deal with the appearance of potential conflict of interest, as a YC startup (which presumably has an interest in hiring and compensation by its startups)? Also, do you have some kind of official fiduciary obligation, as part of giving financial advice? And if so, to whom? How will giving financial advice mesh with offer…

Thanks for the questions!

>If you're affecting startup employees' (and prospectives') perceptions of compensation, how do you deal with the appearance of potential conflict of interest, as a YC startup (which presumably has an interest in hiring and compensation by its startups)?

Our customer is the employee. We're not going to put YC or employers ahead of them.

>Also, do you have some kind of official fiduciary obligation, as part of giving financial advice? And if so, to whom? How will giving financial advice mesh with offering financial products?

We're not currently providing financial advice. We're purely focused on education—helping people understand their equity. We anticipate this will change in the future (and when that happens we will seek RIA certification).

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Do you have plans (even if only a few words of an idea) to do anything beyond this? I imagine this market is pretty small, sure YC funds a bunch of startups every year but it seems like your business is almost entirely dependent on the Bay Area and maybe a handful of other locations around the globe that consistently produce startups that have to rely on compensating employees with equity instead of competitive salar…

>Do you have plans (even if only a few words of an idea) to do anything beyond this?

We believe the next generation of wealth will come from equity owners. There are hundreds of thousands of people—across the US—who need helping managing their equity.

Today’s financial industry is poorly set up to serve this growing set of people who will have a wide array of complicated, expensive First World Problems in the next 10 years.

We hope to fix this!

Re: Launch HN: Compound (YC S19) – helping employees understand equity compensation

#10
Congrats on making it to YC 19!

Love the idea, in fact I started something similar[1] in March 2018 when I was switching job. I also heard too many stories of friends accepting early stage companies offers with little to no equity and I was hurting for them.

I hope we (employees) will finally get our leverage back and fight for better equity but ALSO better liquidity!

If founders get liquidity, employees should too, it's only fair.

[1] https://reffo.us/

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