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Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Post by rjzzleep »

barry-cotter wrote: post #73
neuronic wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wouldn't say it's that stable or that the rest of Africa is instable, especially compared to Europe. It's just that Europe industrialized earlier and got to reap rewards that can only come from most simple needs being met easily. Europe's industrialization as well as other Western countries heavily depended on the exploitation of third world countries in Asia and Africa, especially after WW2. Sweatshops and slave…

> Europe's industrialization as well as other Western countries heavily depended on the exploitation of third world countries in Asia and Africa, especially after WW2. If colonialism was necessary for industrialisation the European powers with no or smaller colonial empires would have had lower growth. Germany would have been behind the U.K. and France. Austria would have been obviously suffering compared to Germany.…

> If colonialism was necessary for industrialisation the European powers with no or smaller colonial empires would have had lower growth.

Which countries are you referring to? First of all borders in Europe were not the way they are right now 150 or 200 years ago.

Second, an example for a tiny country that was exploiting an african nation well into the 20th century is Belgium [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_colonial_empire

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Post by wang_li »

jplayer01 wrote: post #103

350m down (before considering how many actually turn into trees and survive), another 999.65 billion to go ... so what's everybody else doing?

> so what's everybody else doing?

Based on the thread from yesterday, they're pushing for carbon taxes because that will solve everything. /s

It always astonishes me how central government control is the only possible solution. Even if planting tree isn't going to solve climate change tomorrow, it does increase the amount of CO2 that is subtracted from the atmosphere, trees provide living spaces for numerous types of wildlife, they help prevent erosion. Given how many benefits there are to trees, people should be planting them even if they did nothing for moderating green house gases. The only thing they don't do is provide control and opportunities for graft. So I guess it makes sense that some people will poo-poo tree planting in favor of enriching their team.

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Post by zrth »

Smrchy wrote: post #107
_bxg1 wrote: post #99

But tell me again how the world's largest economy can't be bothered to do anything about climate change.

The US already has the cleanest of water and air. No need to do anything when you are leading the others bigly.

Why is there no need to act just because others are doing worse?

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Post by ganzuul »

zrth wrote: post #113
Smrchy wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US already has the cleanest of water and air. No need to do anything when you are leading the others bigly.

Why is there no need to act just because others are doing worse?

Should get international politicans to use their nation's climate virtue as a beating stick. No need to manufacture other kinds of outrage since climate atrocity is in plentiful supply.

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Post by peanutgal2600 »

zrth wrote: post #113
Smrchy wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US already has the cleanest of water and air. No need to do anything when you are leading the others bigly.

Why is there no need to act just because others are doing worse?

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Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Post by MichaelApproved »

Smrchy wrote: post #107
_bxg1 wrote: post #99

But tell me again how the world's largest economy can't be bothered to do anything about climate change.

The US already has the cleanest of water and air. No need to do anything when you are leading the others bigly.

Edit: Damn. I think OP was being sarcastic. A quick look through the comment history shows a different view than the one expressed in the comment. I removed the downvote.

---Original comment---

Here's why I downvoted you:

- It doesn't matter if the water is clean or dirty because that's not what's causing climate change.

- The United States was the second largest emitter of carbon dioxide in 2015. CO2 is a leading cause of climate change.

- The term "bigly" is often used by people who are proud of their ignorance. Ignorance isn't something to be proud of.

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Post by orwin »

ceejayoz wrote: post #78
newsgremlin wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is those suicides at Foxconn are for one reason only, working conditions. Meanwhile the general suicide rate in China is for any number of reasons. Playing a pure numbers game with peoples lives is distasteful.

> The difference is those suicides at Foxconn are for one reason only, working conditions. That's a pretty wild assertion. Is there a reason to believe that the folks working at Foxconn have otherwise 100% idyllic lives with no divorces, deaths of loved ones, clinical depression, etc.?

Well, this happened in France circa 2008 in a state company becoming private. The suicide rate was bit superior to the population average, but not that much.

So the CEO argument during trial was to compare the suicide rate to cop's suicide rate and say "that's not too bad". This is dumb. You should compare to the suicide rate in similar company, or if you cna't find similar company in your country, you take the suicide rate 5 years prior and adjust for intangibles. Turns out the suicide rate in telco was way inferior to the population average prior to the "new management" methods. The ex-CEO will probably avoid prison still. But the trial isn't over yet, so anything can happen.

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Post by tanto »

Smrchy wrote: post #107
_bxg1 wrote: post #99

But tell me again how the world's largest economy can't be bothered to do anything about climate change.

The US already has the cleanest of water and air. No need to do anything when you are leading the others bigly.

Does the USA define "BEST" as first after reversing a list?

> https://www.tripsavvy.com/the-worlds-cleanest-tap-water-4159...

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Post by riffraff »

bayesian_horse wrote: post #14
oblio wrote: post #8

I wish them luck. I'm a sort of history buff and Ethiopia has an amazing history. It's been a state (in various forms and with different names) for more than 2000 years, in a part of the world where such stability has been scarce. It has its own ancient alphabet. It was the only country in Africa to resist the Scramble for Africa and was only occupied by Italy for less than 10 years (after putting the Italian Army to…

I wouldn't say it's that stable or that the rest of Africa is instable, especially compared to Europe. It's just that Europe industrialized earlier and got to reap rewards that can only come from most simple needs being met easily. In general, the developing countries are mostly "behind the curve", meaning their economic growth mostly wasn't that much lower for most of history, but rather they started somewhat later,…

> They also didn't have access to proper domestic animals before Europe industrialized

I think you're confusing lack of domesticated animals in primitive times. Cows and such have been farmed in africa for a long time. For example, Nguni cattle[0], seems to have brought to southern africa as early as the sixth century.

And, well, there were a host of empires on the coast of northern africa before the industrial revolution.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguni_cattle

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Post by kleiba »

MichaelApproved wrote: post #116
Smrchy wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US already has the cleanest of water and air. No need to do anything when you are leading the others bigly.

Edit: Damn. I think OP was being sarcastic. A quick look through the comment history shows a different view than the one expressed in the comment. I removed the downvote. ---Original comment--- Here's why I downvoted you: - It doesn't matter if the water is clean or dirty because that's not what's causing climate change. - The United States was the second largest emitter of carbon dioxide in 2015. CO2 is a leading ca…

The term "bigly"...

...might also be a marker of sarcasm here.

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