Tommorrow's headlines - Goats in Ethiopia have eaten 350 million trees.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zctymnb/revision/4
http://www.ipsnews.net/2018/11/importance-goats-east-africas...
Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
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Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wouldn't say it's that stable or that the rest of Africa is instable, especially compared to Europe. It's just that Europe industrialized earlier and got to reap rewards that can only come from most simple needs being met easily. Europe's industrialization as well as other Western countries heavily depended on the exploitation of third world countries in Asia and Africa, especially after WW2. Sweatshops and slave…
It took suicide-level conditions in places like Foxconn to get us our gadget at Not that I disagree with the rest of the post, but it's time the suicides at Foxconn story dies a fiery death. https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/07/10/apples-c... The juicy quote: At the time of that spate of suicides Foxconn had nearly 1 million workers in its plants. There were up to 14 suicides (it depends whose count you w…
To be fair, you should compare to a demographic group similar to Foxconn workers. Comparison to the whole population may not be very informative due to confounders.
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#33I wish them luck. I'm a sort of history buff and Ethiopia has an amazing history. It's been a state (in various forms and with different names) for more than 2000 years, in a part of the world where such stability has been scarce. It has its own ancient alphabet. It was the only country in Africa to resist the Scramble for Africa and was only occupied by Italy for less than 10 years (after putting the Italian Army to…
A couple of months ago they weren't even paying their soldiers^.
The country is overrun by Islamic Extremists killing and terrorising at will. See the daily news.
Africa's population growth is fundamentally destroying any hope they have for stability or progress. People emigrate to informal settlements near major cities in an uncontrollable/unaccountable way destroying delicate balances of resources with only a tiny fraction of the population contributing to the national or municipal coffers.
You can't grow your population so rapidly, with so few resources and expect standard of living increases equivalent to the west. With that you can't expect the stability of the west.
They will inevitably keep looking to officials who will promise the earth with no hope of delivering.
^ https://m.news24.com/Africa/News/under-siege-somalia-moves-t...
Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
#34I wish them luck. I'm a sort of history buff and Ethiopia has an amazing history. It's been a state (in various forms and with different names) for more than 2000 years, in a part of the world where such stability has been scarce. It has its own ancient alphabet. It was the only country in Africa to resist the Scramble for Africa and was only occupied by Italy for less than 10 years (after putting the Italian Army to…
A couple of months ago they weren't even paying their soldiers^. The country is overrun by Islamic Extremists killing and terrorising at will. See the daily news. Africa's population growth is fundamentally destroying any hope they have for stability or progress. People emigrate to informal settlements near major cities in an uncontrollable/unaccountable way destroying delicate balances of resources with only a tiny…
The article is about Somalia, this thread is about Ethiopia both are at very very different stages at this moment.
Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wouldn't say it's that stable or that the rest of Africa is instable, especially compared to Europe. It's just that Europe industrialized earlier and got to reap rewards that can only come from most simple needs being met easily. Europe's industrialization as well as other Western countries heavily depended on the exploitation of third world countries in Asia and Africa, especially after WW2. Sweatshops and slave…
It took suicide-level conditions in places like Foxconn to get us our gadget at Not that I disagree with the rest of the post, but it's time the suicides at Foxconn story dies a fiery death. https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/07/10/apples-c... The juicy quote: At the time of that spate of suicides Foxconn had nearly 1 million workers in its plants. There were up to 14 suicides (it depends whose count you w…
The difference is those suicides at Foxconn are for one reason only, working conditions.
Meanwhile the general suicide rate in China is for any number of reasons.
Playing a pure numbers game with peoples lives is distasteful.
Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
#36I'm not a botanist, but if they are experiencing drought then how will these newly planted trees survive? According to the article they are so low on water they are slashing output on their hydro-power system and ceasing electricity exports.
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#37Is there any proof or details of how they did this? 350,000,000 is a lot of trees to source, distribute and plant in one day.
Planting a tree is as easy as planting a tiny seed in the ground. What all these headlines omit is that the majority of things planted won't survive. My back yard has a few thousand tree seedlings growing in it naturally.
When we hear of tree planting we picture a mayor or rich person planting a four year old tree in a park. The reality is that trees grow from seed.
In the case of commercial forestry all the trees planted won't make it.
A better vision of tree planting is Johnny Appleseed.
Edits. The Twitter from the Ethiopian minister says tree seedlings.
Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
#38Is there any proof or details of how they did this? 350,000,000 is a lot of trees to source, distribute and plant in one day.
They only planted them in one day. I bet the distribution took a while...
The article gives no details but I'd look to see how many things are planted from seed in a nursery each day to at least get an indication of the number of things which can be "planted" in a given day.
Many trees could be said to have been planted by someone scattering apple seeds out of their pockets.
Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
#39Seems a bit suspicious to me. You can't plant a tree in 5 minutes while making sure that it will actually keep growing.
Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
It took suicide-level conditions in places like Foxconn to get us our gadget at Not that I disagree with the rest of the post, but it's time the suicides at Foxconn story dies a fiery death. https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/07/10/apples-c... The juicy quote: At the time of that spate of suicides Foxconn had nearly 1 million workers in its plants. There were up to 14 suicides (it depends whose count you w…
The difference is those suicides at Foxconn are for one reason only, working conditions. Meanwhile the general suicide rate in China is for any number of reasons. Playing a pure numbers game with peoples lives is distasteful.
Is there any reason to believe, Foxconn employees don't have any other personal/environmental problem causing them to suicide.
While I am all for improving conditions of employees, it should be in context to the environment. If the whole country is working on 1$/day, expecting few companies to got 5$ just because they have global visibility is not feasible. It is not good for the company, economy and social dynamics of that region.