And how many of them will immediately die? Big gestures like this are worthless without continuous maintenance and care on the trees.
Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
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Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
It took suicide-level conditions in places like Foxconn to get us our gadget at Not that I disagree with the rest of the post, but it's time the suicides at Foxconn story dies a fiery death. https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/07/10/apples-c... The juicy quote: At the time of that spate of suicides Foxconn had nearly 1 million workers in its plants. There were up to 14 suicides (it depends whose count you w…
The difference is those suicides at Foxconn are for one reason only, working conditions. Meanwhile the general suicide rate in China is for any number of reasons. Playing a pure numbers game with peoples lives is distasteful.
Really, do you have a source for that? Because that seems like an outrageous claim to just make up.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe it's easier to let them rot in place like it worked in the rainforests for millions of years?
Rotting releases their co2. All good when things are in balance - but they're not. To sequester the c02, you need to prevent rot.
Hm, as far as I remember that was the way CO2 was turned into fossil fuel, depositing layers over layers of vegetation...
Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
It took suicide-level conditions in places like Foxconn to get us our gadget at Not that I disagree with the rest of the post, but it's time the suicides at Foxconn story dies a fiery death. https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/07/10/apples-c... The juicy quote: At the time of that spate of suicides Foxconn had nearly 1 million workers in its plants. There were up to 14 suicides (it depends whose count you w…
The difference is those suicides at Foxconn are for one reason only, working conditions. Meanwhile the general suicide rate in China is for any number of reasons. Playing a pure numbers game with peoples lives is distasteful.
Would be interesting to know how they differentiated between different "causes".
Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think this initiative was aimed at soil erosion and moisture retention...
Planting trees definitely does not hurt and as you say, prevents soil erosion and helps keep ground water which is going to be more and more important as we go. Just don't think this will magically revert global warming, this would be dangerous attitude.
>>Just don't think this will magically revert global warming, this would be dangerous attitude.
Maybe but it's relatively cheap, and it can't hurt so why not?
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't say it's that stable or that the rest of Africa is instable, especially compared to Europe. It's just that Europe industrialized earlier and got to reap rewards that can only come from most simple needs being met easily. In general, the developing countries are mostly "behind the curve", meaning their economic growth mostly wasn't that much lower for most of history, but rather they started somewhat later,…
> I wouldn't say it's that stable or that the rest of Africa is instable, especially compared to Europe. It's just that Europe industrialized earlier and got to reap rewards that can only come from most simple needs being met easily. Europe's industrialization as well as other Western countries heavily depended on the exploitation of third world countries in Asia and Africa, especially after WW2. Sweatshops and slave…
"Exploitation" is a very subjective term. I won't argue that Europeans and their colonists did a lot of wrong.
On the other hand, industrial growth isn't just exploitation. Whom is China "exploiting" right now? Sure they are trying to do this to a few countries, but with very limited success compared to European Colonization.
There is no fundamental difference between the growth-rate in different developing countries, or between them and Europe during industrialization. In the final analysis, wealth can only develop through exponential growth. There is no sustainable short-cut.
Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rotting releases their co2. All good when things are in balance - but they're not. To sequester the c02, you need to prevent rot.
Hm, as far as I remember that was the way CO2 was turned into fossil fuel, depositing layers over layers of vegetation...
I believe that accumulation happened before microorganisms had evolved to digest cellulose (?). If we can ever produce a surplus of electricity, we would ideally sequester carbon in a place other than the bottom of the ocean, creating a giant Earth-battery. Although it would be ironic if "carbon sequestration" meant heaping plastic in landfills.
Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe it's easier to let them rot in place like it worked in the rainforests for millions of years?
Rotting releases their co2. All good when things are in balance - but they're not. To sequester the c02, you need to prevent rot.
Probably a really bad idea but what about chemical treatment to prevent rot.
Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
#49Is there any proof or details of how they did this? 350,000,000 is a lot of trees to source, distribute and plant in one day.
It does seem quite a bit, furiouspete talked about jobbing as a student in reforestation in Canada (his shrooms video) and apparently if you are quick you go through 4k a day per person a 12h shift.
Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change
#50Seems a bit suspicious to me. You can't plant a tree in 5 minutes while making sure that it will actually keep growing.
These are likely bareroot "whips" which makes planting a lot more automatable and successful, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfI_T7qG_Ok