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Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

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Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

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"Homo sapiens" is Latin for "wise man," but there were many Hominin species who possessed comparative culture, art, and intelligence. Neanderthals actually had larger brains compared to modern humans[0]. There are many theories on why Neanderthals became extinct[1]; my favorite is that we simply outbred them because of our sex appeal. What is Latin for "sexy human?" [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal#Anato…

> my favorite is that we simply outbred them because of our sex appeal. Then why didn't the smart and strong Neanderthal males mate with the sexy Sapiens females?

Maybe they did exactly that and that's why we ended up with a lot of neanderthal DNA. If modern humans are any indication, a horny neanderthal would have attempted mating with just about anything loosely compatible with their urges. Just refer to your favorite porn sites for an overview of all the different things modern people find interesting. Bluntly put, if it had a hole, mr. Neanderthal would probably have been interested in exploring its potential for mating.

Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Such categories are only an approximation of reality to help with classification. There is stuff like ring species [1] for example or species complex [2]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_species [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_complex

Any known ring species where (A + B cannot breed OR B + C cannot breed) AND A + B can breed? Assume not possible?

That's logically equivalent to (A + B can breed) AND (B + C cannot breed), not a very exciting question.

Did you mean AND (A + C can breed)?

Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

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post #18

Suppose we found enough DNA to recreate these hominins. Would they be citizens or zoo animals? Either way, what if they want to interbreed? Do we determine this based on looks? What if the attraction is unidirectional?

They would be citizens. They would grow up like normal children. They would speak any human language. They could achieve anything any other human could in their lives. The differences would be subtle. They would appear like unusual humans to us, a racial group that we had never encountered. We would certainly see more commonalities with other modern humans than differences. All their traits would be present to some extent among living modern humans, but they would show us a unique and intense combination of those traits.

Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

#75

I'm curious; can we assume they were similar enough to be attractive or desirable as mates? It's obvious different cultural standards may have applied. Or am I asking a stupid question?

They've done reconstructions of neanderthals based on forensic understanding of muscles over bone, etc. They look like people. If you're attracted to Homo Sapiens you're probably attracted to Homo Neanderthalensis.

Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

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post #60

"Homo sapiens" is Latin for "wise man," but there were many Hominin species who possessed comparative culture, art, and intelligence. Neanderthals actually had larger brains compared to modern humans[0]. There are many theories on why Neanderthals became extinct[1]; my favorite is that we simply outbred them because of our sex appeal. What is Latin for "sexy human?" [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal#Anato…

> my favorite is that we simply outbred them because of our sex appeal. Then why didn't the smart and strong Neanderthal males mate with the sexy Sapiens females?

That is exactly what they did - all the Neanderthal genes in the current populations has come down via Neanderthal males and sapien female matings. Personally I blame Tinder, but it could have something to do with Haldane's Rule [0].

0 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldane%27s_rule

Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

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post #18

Suppose we found enough DNA to recreate these hominins. Would they be citizens or zoo animals? Either way, what if they want to interbreed? Do we determine this based on looks? What if the attraction is unidirectional?

They would be citizens. They would grow up like normal children. They would speak any human language. They could achieve anything any other human could in their lives. The differences would be subtle. They would appear like unusual humans to us, a racial group that we had never encountered. We would certainly see more commonalities with other modern humans than differences. All their traits would be present to some e…

This is a massive assumption that we don't know is true.

Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

#79

I'm curious; can we assume they were similar enough to be attractive or desirable as mates? It's obvious different cultural standards may have applied. Or am I asking a stupid question?

Or maybe the production of alcohol was discovered earlier than we thought.
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