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Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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I agree. There's no evidence that they have even a single prototype phone in the final form factor, let alone any tooling to make the cases etc. I've preordered one, and I hope I eventually get it, but I think shipping in Q3 is just not going to happen.

What are the application demo videos running on? Is that just a dev board below the screen?

Yes (or, where it's a screen capture, it's from a dev board or emulator).

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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It's great to see this project coming to fruition. My main reservation about owning a smartphone has always been the idea of a device that knows everything about me under the control of God knows who. This phone partially addresses that issue, but can anyone here who's knowledgeable about encryption comment on that aspect? Without some form of encrypted storage it would seem like game-over when a well resourced adver…

That is correct, in that case you need to encrypt either the files you want to be safe, or use full-disk encryption. I have no idea whether Purism will support selective file encryption or FDE out of the box, but it'd be pretty cool if they did.

That said, under the hood your phone is basically a Linux device, so doing this yourself might need some basic know-how of Linux administration, but shouldn't be too hard (regarding file encryption, FDE may be trickier).

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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You can use Google maps navigation via a web browser

Does it do turn-by-turn? I currently use Google Maps on my Android phone for its navigation. That's important to me, but another user is saying there are Linux apps that do that already, so for me, that's even better!

You can but the UI is super hostile: 1. asks if you want to install google maps app 2. link to get it to do turn by turn is a button called "Preview"

This was my experience using safari on ios.

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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You lost me at the resolution. 720p is ridiculous in 2019. Also 32GB of internal storage is extremely restricting (even with the SD card, apps like to install on the main storage).

I have put my root folder on a 32GB M.2 in my X220 and that has been more than enough storage for all of the different distros I have run the last 5 years.

I expect to replace my current laptop with the Librem 5 as my daily driver. Having a real linux-distro on my phone is a dream come true, especially when I can dock it with my monitor at home and use it as a regular laptop.

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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I'm sorry, this device profile doesn't really sell me on why I need to upgrade from my Android TracFone; it doesn't even give me confidence that it will work with the networks I need it to. This is part of the problem I've found over the years with consumer Unix-derivatives - too many "figure it out yourself" answers, not enough "just works, or we'll show you how to figure out whether it works or not first". That's t…

https://puri.sm/faq/supported-networks/ They already have a list of LTE bands that will work depending on if you buy the Europe or US variant. That list is only for the Gemalto PLS8-US and PLS8-E. There is another Broadmobi BM818 module as well. For the US, AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile support the 2, 4, 5, and 17 LTE bands that work with the PLS8-US. All of Europe should be supported on the PLS8-E. The BM818 mention d…

That doesn't help me since I don't know jack shit about bands. I went to their page and to the page they link to, but I still cannot figure out if the phone will even work where I live?

And if just some bands are supported, may that affect network speeds? I don't think this phone is going to very successful because at the very least they should have made some interactive guide where you simply can select where you live and it will simply display if it will work for you.

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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Hmmm, almost exactly half the specs of OnePlus 3, way more expensive than OnePlus 3 when it came out 3 years ago. How this is better than installing lineage Os on oneplus 3? -- https://download.lineageos.org/oneplus3 I understand anyone who wants privacy need to pay extra, but is it really justifiable to pay this much for that?

When I pre-ordered the phone, I also saw it as donating to (or at least contributing to the development of) open-source software in a way -- Purism is a for-profit company, but they've been doing a lot of software work on this phone and they've been pushing the changes upstream, too. I highly recommend looking through their blog ( https://puri.sm/posts/ ), especially the Librem 5 [month] Software Update posts for the…

> Purism is a for-profit company

It's worth mentioning that they have a strong commitment to their social purpose, not maximizing profits, which I really like. Read more about it on their webpage: https://puri.sm/about/social-purpose/

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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B corps are allowed to prioritize specific values enumerated in their corporate charter, even at the expense financial gains. Regular corporations have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders, which in recent decades has been interpreted as requiring companies to maximize short-term shareholder value

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/fiduciary-responsibi... There is no fiduciary requirement to put profits above all else. In fact there is no fiduciary duty to make profits, just basically to do what's best for the company. There is no short term time frame listed. If there is a requirement to make profits it's not because it's a responsibility. Shareholders may want it but no one gets punished if a bad decisi…

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Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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As someone who backed them in 2017 I'm so happy to finally see the specs. It's amazing to follow their progress, I love what they are doing with Gnome/Phosh, that gives me hope that there will be many native apps for the most important tasks and not just some web-app mess. For the people complaining about the price/specs ratio: this phone is no standard off-the-shelve system, it had to be designed with user privacy a…

"For the people complaining about the price/specs ratio: this phone is no standard off-the-shelve system, it had to be designed with user privacy and openness in mind while having a ridiculously small market. I'm amazed they did it so cheaply." How does that affect the price tag? Would it be less secure if they charged less?

If you constrain yourself to non-NDA hardware, rather than lowest-cost vendor, you've just notched up price quite a bit. Take out mass manufacturing economics, and the price seems quite economical, actually.

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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Will Librem 5 provide a way to turn off SMT? EDIT It looks like Librem5 has a serial port [1] so you can build PureOS and flash your phone with a custom build. In that case you can configure the kernel and turn off SMT if desired. Nice :-) [1] https://developer.puri.sm/Librem5/Hardware_Reference.html#us...

Why would you want to turn it off?

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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GNOME and Linux are under the GPL. So are phosh (Purism's shell), Chatty (their messaging app) and probably a lot of other components. So you can't make a closed fork.

Linux kernel is GPL. Now try to get the right version sold with an Android phone.

Semi-related, but apparently Win10 WSL now includes the Linux kernel.

Being as that's GPL, it seems strange the GPL license isn't somehow "virally" infecting windows, making other things OSS.

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