While I like underdogs and developing a 3 player in the smartphone OS market. That $700 seems like high cost to contribute to R&D.
Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs
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Not the stochastic swine, but their mistake was saying GPS signals would be logged while inside a Faraday bag. GPS signals are RF, thus blocked by any proper Faraday cage.
Faraday bags don't block a full spectrum. In fact they tend to be rated only for specific frequencies. GPS and GSM/CMDA/LTE are different enough that you should never assume a bag that is designed to block one will also get the other. Same with WiFi, AM/FM, Shortwave, WWVB, etc...
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> fork It'll probably be a closed source fork. Defeating the whole purpose of Librem.
GNOME and Linux are under the GPL. So are phosh (Purism's shell), Chatty (their messaging app) and probably a lot of other components. So you can't make a closed fork.
Linux kernel is GPL.
Now try to get the right version sold with an Android phone.
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#164I've been looking for a "FOSS" phone that is based purely on AOSP. I don't want a custom ROM, Play Store, cloud, or to have to create any accounts or sign into anything. I just want a simple Android phone with decent specs that I can install APKs on. Does this exist at all? Or do I have to buy/pay for a "full" Android phone and reflash it?
You could buy a Pixel and put GrapheneOS on it. https://grapheneos.org/#device-support
Their website does a pretty horrible job of selling the OS. I was interested until i saw 0 screenshots of what the OS actually looked like. None on their website or github.
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#165As someone who backed them in 2017 I'm so happy to finally see the specs. It's amazing to follow their progress, I love what they are doing with Gnome/Phosh, that gives me hope that there will be many native apps for the most important tasks and not just some web-app mess. For the people complaining about the price/specs ratio: this phone is no standard off-the-shelve system, it had to be designed with user privacy a…
"For the people complaining about the price/specs ratio: this phone is no standard off-the-shelve system, it had to be designed with user privacy and openness in mind while having a ridiculously small market. I'm amazed they did it so cheaply."
How does that affect the price tag? Would it be less secure if they charged less?
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#1665.7" screen is HUGE. I wish someone would build phone with 3.5-4" screen. It's so handy to operate phone with a single hand.
They've stated that they couldn't fit everything in 5" size (which was an optimistic target early on) a few months after the crowdfunding campain ended.
I'm a backer and I'd love to have 4.5" or less phone with the same features as Librem, but AFAIK there is no other options on the horizon.
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#167While I like underdogs and developing a 3 player in the smartphone OS market. That $700 seems like high cost to contribute to R&D.
It's a small (2.5k to 3k) batch and unusual tech specs (i.e. last time completely detached from SoC cellular/wi-fi modems were made in 2012 according to Purism). If there was a demand for 100k batch, it would be cost closer to $350 I believe.
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#168I just found out they didn't use AOSP. Ok so it's based on Linux but isn't anyone worried that they're re-inventing some wheels by not using AOSP? Or is there a licensing issue I'm not aware of? Edit: Sorry but my cynicism stems from backing a lot of open source attempts, including N900 with Maemo, ZTE Blade and Jolla. I ended up giving away two of those and the last is rotting in storage.
My understanding is open-sourcs vs closed-source (the binary driver blobs that other phones require).
Exactly this. Also no one could block adding the hardware support into AOSP's HAL, so that option is possible.
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#169Will Librem 5 provide a way to turn off SMT? EDIT It looks like Librem5 has a serial port [1] so you can build PureOS and flash your phone with a custom build. In that case you can configure the kernel and turn off SMT if desired. Nice :-) [1] https://developer.puri.sm/Librem5/Hardware_Reference.html#us...
I assuming SMT mean Surface Mount Technology, in this context? It would be nice if people expanded their TLAs once in a while!
I was referring to Symmetric Multi-Processing kernel support. Since the Librem 5 has a serial port via usb, the kernel can be easily customized to suit an individual's needs. If you mess up you can just flash the last known good. It is hacker friendly :-)
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
I assuming SMT mean Surface Mount Technology, in this context? It would be nice if people expanded their TLAs once in a while!
I was referring to Symmetric Multi-Processing kernel support. Since the Librem 5 has a serial port via usb, the kernel can be easily customized to suit an individual's needs. If you mess up you can just flash the last known good. It is hacker friendly :-)
Ok, wouldn’t that be SMP, rather than SMT?