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This begs the question if UK/EU got a copy of all the US citizens ' fingerprints in return. It is possible to commit treason against your own country. Can someone commit treason against the EU? Is it a criminal offense?
Sometimes I can‘t help thinking whether the UK is just the US‘ trojan horse in the EU. Well, things might change quite a bit after October 31st, so hurry up!
It's one of the reasons I was glad Brexit happened. The UK was usually the most important nation members pushing for surveillance laws in the EU and then have the EU share that data with the US.
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I will agree the UK has never really embraced the whole EU project as it has become. I also agree that in many votes, the UK has been the stumbling block and with that did anybody in the UK and those wanting to keep the UK in the EU ever asked themselves - what is best for the EU? I did and that is why I voted leave myself - better for the EU and the UK. That was my reason for voting as I did. Equally, many area's in…
So how should the UK leave the EU? As the vote wasn't held on the basis of leaving without a deal, and you don't want a 2nd vote to ask an actionable question.
They said leaving the EU meant leaving the customs union and single market - that was pretty clear, that was what people understood from this and that is how they voted.
Alas many for whom the vote did not go as intended, seem to feel that everybody else did not understand what they voted for.
For me - staying in a customs union or single market would entail as best solution - staying in the EU. Leaving those meant leaving the EU.
Even mader is that the EU laws and article 50 state that any member state must leave without a deal as no deal can be negotiated until....they have left.
So this whole aspect of we can not leave without a deal, goes against EU law in article 50.
So really is very crazy how those aspects get overlooked and allowed to drag on when it was pretty well clear cut for so many and still is today.
Sometimes I can‘t help thinking whether the UK is just the US‘ trojan horse in the EU. Well, things might change quite a bit after October 31st, so hurry up!
as a french, I cant wait for them to be out. They spent the last 50 years trying to sabotage the EU. They want to leave ? Good riddance.
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> They want to leave ? Good riddance. As citizens at least, it's pretty well understood that in majority we don't want to leave, one half definitely doesn't, the other half are mostly a combination of naive, manipulated and coerced based on false claims and social media, some portion are not manipulated or naive but have settled on some narrow view of a very large and complex decision... and finally the minority (the…
> it's pretty well understood that in majority we don't want to leave, the other half are mostly a combination of naive, manipulated and coerced based on false claims and social media... What? There was a vote. A vote where everyone elligible had the chance to voice their opinion and the majority (albeit slim) said "we want out". As for the slur of being naieve and manipulated that's bullshit (from my standpoint anyw…
The point is that isn't really actionable, it isn't a plan.
Hard Brexit was discussed, soft Brexit was discussed, BRINO, Norway plus. Everyone voted for their own preferred Brexit, so now we're in the situation on which Brexit to implement, and no one can agree, so which Brexit to go for?
And I would like to point out that no deal Brexit was never seriously discussed in the run up to the referendum, so there isn't a mandate for that. We were though promised that we would be able to leave the EU, keep access to the common market, and save ourselves £350 million a week, in what would be the 'easiest trade deal in human history'.
The title is incorrect. The Schengen Information System does not keep data for "all EU citizens", it only keeps such data for wanted persons, missing/stolen identity documents or objects (like cars, boats and so on). There is no centralized database for EU citizens photos or fingerprints (not even at national level in many countries).
The title is incorrect. The Schengen Information System does not keep data for "all EU citizens", it only keeps such data for wanted persons, missing/stolen identity documents or objects (like cars, boats and so on). There is no centralized database for EU citizens photos or fingerprints (not even at national level in many countries).
Regarding fingerprints, let's not forget that non-police system (eg. biometric passports) only register a subset of flat prints. On French passports, only two fingers are saved, and the prints are 'flat' - not rolled . Those are usable as a verification (is the holder of the document the actual owner?), but would prove very hard to use to identify someone out of a crowd (whose prints are on this gun/knife/glass?).
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Not much to think about we completely and totally are. One of the things that came out of Snowden releases was just how bloody efficient and interconnectef GCHQ is with the NSA. It's rather typical that the most efficient government body appears to be the one used for spying on its own (and everyone else's) citizens. It's ok though as the new home secretary is a stable and sensible...no wait it's Priti "I had to resi…
I had a phone call with the Inland Revenue where they collected most of my details by an automated voice based system - which worked flawlessly . This came as a slight surprise as literally no other voice activated system works for me in any way that is remotely usable (Apple, Android, whatever is in my car...). I wonder where they get their voice recognition technology from? ;-)
This begs the question if UK/EU got a copy of all the US citizens ' fingerprints in return. It is possible to commit treason against your own country. Can someone commit treason against the EU? Is it a criminal offense?
Odds are that NSA already has them, but this makes it legal.
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> it's pretty well understood that in majority we don't want to leave, the other half are mostly a combination of naive, manipulated and coerced based on false claims and social media... What? There was a vote. A vote where everyone elligible had the chance to voice their opinion and the majority (albeit slim) said "we want out". As for the slur of being naieve and manipulated that's bullshit (from my standpoint anyw…
Oh yeah, absolutely all of the people who voted leave were completely rational. Like my father-in-law who voted leave so we can send all them Indians back home.
People had their reasons for voting the way they did, and you show your ignorance and lack of perspective when you dismiss their views like that.
Calling people racist doesn't make opposing views go away, especially when over half the people in the country have those views.
edit: Keep up the downvotes, it doesn't change anything.