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Tulsi Gabbard Sues Google for Suspending Ad Account

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I work at Google on ranking algorithms for Search. I'm aware of everything that controls how web pages are ranked. If I ever encountered a system that was designed to alter the results for political reasons, I would resign.

Does your claim include the keyword "abortion"? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/13/abortions-near...

There are complaints on both sides of this issue: http://christianresearchnetwork.org/2019/01/16/the-smoking-g...

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The media analysis skills of folks on HN continue to astound. What makes you think project veritas is a credible source? Im serious.

The video recording. Are you gonna claim they are fake?

Yes, because he's literally done exactly that many times, and lost lawsuits over it.

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> Gabbard insinuates the initial suspension was politically motivated The subtext I'm reading is that the "major" political accounts probably have specific flags set by Google internally to prevent automated shut-offs like this. If Google is not applying these whitelist flags to all candidates in a fair and systematic fashion, it would effectively be utilizing their corporate resources to disproportionately benefit c…

>it would effectively be utilizing their corporate resources to disproportionately benefit certain candidates at the expense of others Which is still not illegal. Fox News does it all the time.

And Facebook supported Obama. It’s not like Silicon Valley attempts to be impartial on any level.

https://ijr.com/ex-obama-campaign-director-fb/

> A former Obama campaign official is claiming that Facebook knowingly allowed them to mine massive amounts of Facebook data — more than they would’ve allowed someone else to do

https://www.rt.com/usa/421808-obama-facebook-mine-data/

Carol Davidsen, former director for media analytics for Obama’s 2012 campaign, has poured oil onto the fire by reveling in a series of tweets that Facebook allowed them to do “things they wouldn’t have allowed someone else to do.”

That reportedly included “suck[ing] out the entire social graph” – an individual’s network of friends on Facebook – in a bid to target more and more potential voters through friends’ friends on social media.

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After Facebook “realized” what the Obama campaign staffers had been doing, they preferred to turn a blind eye for one simple reason: “they were on our side,” Davidsen claimed.

They came to office in the days following election recruiting & were very candid that they allowed us to do things they wouldn’t have allowed someone else to do because they were on our side.

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Perhaps pedantic . But the comment I was replying to specifically framed WW2 as "a war with the US" and I've had foreign friends, such as in Canada, who have commented on America's tendency to talk like we singlehandedly won that war.

I don't think "war with the US" was meant to imply "A war in which America was on it's own and did everything" ; that's a cynical read of it. A less cynical read would be that "war with the US" means "war in which the US was a participant." Germany did declare war with the US , hence there was in fact a war with the US. Of course, Germany was also at war with lots of other people. All Americans are taught that in sch…

I don't think "war with the US" was meant to imply...

Since I wrote it I'll clue you in. The phrase plainly means a "modern" "war", in which USA decides, usually after extensive government and media gaslighting, to violently invade a nation that did nothing to provoke such invasion. We've done this many times since the early 1950s. This entire WWII sub-thread is a quivering mass of willful cynical misreading and look-how-much-irrelevant-history-I-know posturing.

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>it would effectively be utilizing their corporate resources to disproportionately benefit certain candidates at the expense of others Which is still not illegal. Fox News does it all the time.

> Which is still not illegal. I think it most of europe it is illegal. Not so in the US ?

More importantly, who cares about campaign ads when the election coverage that’s supposedly impartial is larger age more frequent. The relentless focus on the Republican candidate we hate most by the US media did more to elect Trump than any ads.

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>it would effectively be utilizing their corporate resources to disproportionately benefit certain candidates at the expense of others Which is still not illegal. Fox News does it all the time.

BUT Tulsi has bought and paid for the Google Ads that were disabled during a critical SIX hours when interest in her was high and her top placed ad would have driven traffic to her donation page. She BOUGHT that ad time just as much as an advertiser buys Superbowl ad time. This was an outright breach of contract.

Pretty sure her campaign wasn't charged for ads that weren't shown. If you buy a Superbowl ad and it wasn't shown and you weren't charged for it, it isn't a breach of contract.

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>it would effectively be utilizing their corporate resources to disproportionately benefit certain candidates at the expense of others Which is still not illegal. Fox News does it all the time.

And Facebook supported Obama. It’s not like Silicon Valley attempts to be impartial on any level. https://ijr.com/ex-obama-campaign-director-fb/ > A former Obama campaign official is claiming that Facebook knowingly allowed them to mine massive amounts of Facebook data — more than they would’ve allowed someone else to do https://www.rt.com/usa/421808-obama-facebook-mine-data/ Carol Davidsen, former director for media…

That is entirely possible but I don’t trust Russia Today as a source, and, I have never heard of IJR before. Would like to see other sources saying the same.

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It might be more appropriate to link to a indepdent article about this rather than Gabbard's site. Here is one from The Verge [1]. It sounds like Google's fraud/spam algorithms automatically triggered the suspension (maybe due to a large increase in spend meant to build on Gabbard's post debate momentum). The account was unlocked after human intervention. Gabbard insinuates the initial suspension was politically moti…

> insinuates the initial suspension was politically motivated, which seems hard to believe How is that hard to believe? We know for a fact Google does political censorship. https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/06/24/insider-blows-whis... https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/06/25/breaking-new-googl... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ricI5t66cj8 (note these are fresh links just from the last 2 days)

Project Veritas was created by a known liar and manipulator. Anyone falling for their schtick needs to learn how to be less gullible.

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And Facebook supported Obama. It’s not like Silicon Valley attempts to be impartial on any level. https://ijr.com/ex-obama-campaign-director-fb/ > A former Obama campaign official is claiming that Facebook knowingly allowed them to mine massive amounts of Facebook data — more than they would’ve allowed someone else to do https://www.rt.com/usa/421808-obama-facebook-mine-data/ Carol Davidsen, former director for media…

That is entirely possible but I don’t trust Russia Today as a source, and, I have never heard of IJR before. Would like to see other sources saying the same.

Keep on mind the top post is recommending we read a Vox media site.

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Veritas is tabloid propaganda. They have less than zero credibility.

You realize the rightwingers say the same about CNN, NYT, and other "reputable" sources? They are all dirty, on all sides. Thankfully, we have videos, so we don't have to rely on anybody's reputation.

This says more about the rightwingers that say that than it does CNN, NYT, WaPo, Bloomberg, etc. - there is a reason the rightwing in this country has embraced Trumpism, and it isn't because truth is a guiding principle of their movement.
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