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Re: Spaced Repetition

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Post by flomble »

asdkhadsj wrote: post #23
jsty wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[Warning: attempt at taking joke seriously] Surely if this were so, it would mean you'd see fewer mentions of spaced repetition over time, rather than more? (assuming your comment implies having seen more than usual recently)

> [Warning: attempt at taking joke seriously] As an aside, I love doing this sort of thing. In conversation, someone makes a joke about X doing something impossible, and then all of us who analyze everything to death start playing the scenario in our head to understand ramifications or limitations in the fictional and often impossible scenario. Drives my wife nuts, but I enjoy it so much :)

Sounds like Yes-And (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes,_and...), accepting the premise and expanding on the joke.

Tell your wife you're using a proven comedic technique.

Re: Spaced Repetition

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Post by insickness »

ai_ia wrote: post #50
keiferski wrote: post #49

I truly believe that spaced repetition is near-magic and it is a tragedy that it's not integrated into our society and educational system at a fundamental level. It makes me shudder to think of all the years spent learning things only to forget them weeks or months later. In any case, I've recently embarked on a long-term educational plan utilizing spaced repetition. My goal is to learn dozens of languages, historica…

Can you post your learnings and deck online. Would love to follow your journey.

Whenever I post about spaced repetition, people ask for my decks. You're far better off making your own decks. Read through the material you want to learn and make "notes" on what you want to remember by creating questions for yourself. By using someone else's deck, you are selling yourself short.

Re: Spaced Repetition

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Post by keiferski »

ai_ia wrote: post #50
keiferski wrote: post #49

I truly believe that spaced repetition is near-magic and it is a tragedy that it's not integrated into our society and educational system at a fundamental level. It makes me shudder to think of all the years spent learning things only to forget them weeks or months later. In any case, I've recently embarked on a long-term educational plan utilizing spaced repetition. My goal is to learn dozens of languages, historica…

Can you post your learnings and deck online. Would love to follow your journey.

I should really start a blog and chronicle the whole process. I'll let you know when I do!

Re: Spaced Repetition

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Post by [deleted] »

jclay wrote: post #33

I’ve used Anki pretty consistently throughout my university studies for just about every course. I plan to continue using it to keep a high level overview of some of the important maths concepts I want to stay fresh on. I’ve been enjoying Mochi[0] as an alternative recently. It has a much nicer UI and the core features I use are all there. I find it much faster to create my cards in Markdown and with a keyboard drive…

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Re: Spaced Repetition

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Post by edtechdev »

s9w wrote: post #10

I often feel like learning things with Anki puts memories into the wrong part of the brain. It happens way too often that I can perfectly recall something from Anki (on a PC or phone), but have a lot of trouble recalling it 'in action'.

That's due to encoding specificity. You aren't just learning the 'thing' but the context in which you learned the thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encoding_specificity_principle

It's better to learn things in or close to the contexts in which you will use them. That's the heart of situated learning / problem-based learning / simulations, etc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situated_learning

Re: Spaced Repetition

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Post by doc_gunthrop »

a-robinson wrote: post #4

With how often I've seen spaced repetition mentioned online recently, I'm starting to assume there's a grand conspiracy that's trying to use spaced repetition to trick me into remembering about spaced repetition.

Joke aside, what you're describing sounds more like the Baader-Meinhof effect[0].

[0]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baader%E2%80%93Meinhof_effect

Re: Spaced Repetition

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Post by hombre_fatal »

naz wrote: post #27
s9w wrote: post #10

I often feel like learning things with Anki puts memories into the wrong part of the brain. It happens way too often that I can perfectly recall something from Anki (on a PC or phone), but have a lot of trouble recalling it 'in action'.

I also experience this phenomenon. In learning a language, I like to think of Anki as the primer stage in learning a word. I have to encounter and recognize that word in the wild for the memory to be fully solidified. I'll often go back to my Anki card and add a note of where I encountered it IRL, and that usually makes that card stick for good.

When I first tried expanding my vocabulary in a foreign language, I made the classic mistake of just logging word + definition.

I've since transitioned to rely on actual usage examples from books / in the wild. It's really the only way to actually learn, imo.

Else you'll learn that a word means "wide" but have no idea how to apply it. With usage examples, you train yourself to realize you might use this word to describe a wide road, but this other word to refer to a thick stick. And the correct word starts coming to mind in the wild, incidentally, without a deliberate step to understand the difference.

Definition alone is basically useless.

Re: Spaced Repetition

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Post by scottlocklin »

cpursley wrote: post #34
DeusExMachina wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might be becasue you are just training recognition and not production. I use Anki to study Russian, with great results, following Gabriel Werner's Fluent Forever. In the book, he teaches how to learn the words and the grammar of a language using Anki. One of the fundamental ideas is to both create recognition and production cards. The recognition cards are the ones with a word in your target language, of which you…

I'm also studying Russian. Are you using the Fluent Forever app along with the book? How are you storing your anki cards (anki app or something else).

What I'd really like isn't "I am studying Y using X" -I'd like "I am fluent to level Z in Y from using X."

I've used some spaced repetition/Anki stuff to put an initial dent in Portuguese. Compared to learning French the old fashioned way of practice with humans and repetition; it's a huge basket of fail for me. Virtually no useful results. Stopped with Anki, moved to Portugal; zero lessons, but making some attempts with the locals with a shitty phrasebook and dictionary -I actually got decent results. Maybe you can call that "spaced repetition." In which case everything is spaced repetition.

I believe people can remember lots of facts via flashcards, as I've done this myself in the past. I'm not so sure it works on languages.

Re: Spaced Repetition

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Post by ai_ia »

insickness wrote: post #52
ai_ia wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you post your learnings and deck online. Would love to follow your journey.

Whenever I post about spaced repetition, people ask for my decks. You're far better off making your own decks. Read through the material you want to learn and make "notes" on what you want to remember by creating questions for yourself. By using someone else's deck, you are selling yourself short.

I like creating my own decks too. But checking out people's deck sometimes reveal interesting and creative ways to remember things. I learnt occlusion, multiple choice questions, sound based anki from looking at other people deck.

Its like I don't like to read from other people study notes but I definitely check them out to see what I have missed.

Re: Spaced Repetition

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Post by insickness »

sausla wrote: post #19

Seems like spaced repetition works great for language learning and remembering new terms. I wonder how it could help to get better as a programmer. Any tips?

For anything you read that you want to remember spaced repetition is helpful. If I'm reading a book without putting questions into anki, I forget 90% of what I read. Where as with anki, I can at least keep all the basic concepts in my mind. For example, if you are reading about different types of approaches to programming, you might create a question like, "What are the aspects of Agile?"

I'm not a programmer. I work in security. Today I was on a job interview where someone asked me if I was familiar with Agile. I was able to give him the bare bones explanation of it. This is something I studied over a year ago and haven't touched since.

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