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GitLab – A $1B business where all employees work remotely

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Re: GitLab – A $1B business where all employees work remotely

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Would be interesting to know if they discriminate pay, according to where the person works from. Edit: Further down the page I saw: "Why they pay based on where team members live". That's petty.

FYI Gitlab quite readily publicize their salary calculator at https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-operations/global-c... .

Thanks for posting our calculator. More context about us paying local rates is in https://about.gitlab.com/2019/02/28/why-we-pay-local-rates/

Re: GitLab – A $1B business where all employees work remotely

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The first half of the article doesn't even name the business. The name of the business, GitLab, is hidden in the second half of the article. This is an example of a publication optimizing blindly for Google Search Optimization where they want to improve "Time on site" and other data by keeping the readers on the page as long as possible. It's frustrating. Google's algorithm needs to be updated to make it smarter othe…

I noticed this when you google "name-of-movie post credit scene". Not a single result will instantly tell you if this movie has a scene after the credits. It will have a multiple paragraph review of the movie and your answer is hidden somewhere in there. All I want is a simple yes or no answer.

I found the main discussion threads on the /r/movies surbeddit the easiest way of finding if there's a post credit scene. The info is in the original post, so there's no need to read comments with potential spoilers.

http://aftercredits.com is a pretty good source as well, but I checked it out after your comment and surprisingly it doesn't show in the top search results for " post credit scene".

Re: GitLab – A $1B business where all employees work remotely

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Would be interesting to know if they discriminate pay, according to where the person works from. Edit: Further down the page I saw: "Why they pay based on where team members live". That's petty.

You can check your compensation here: https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-operations/global-c...

For Canada, Toronto and Vancouver are considered distinct from the rest of their provinces, but not Montreal from the rest of Quebec.

Re: GitLab – A $1B business where all employees work remotely

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I think the standard argument is not that they're paying according to need, they're paying according to market norms. Thing is, in high cost of living areas the living cost is extremely pegged to job opportunities, it's almost tautological. Where there are more job opportunities, you have to pay people more to stop them working for competitors. A confounding factor is a hypothesised (not sure if backed by data) trend…

Gitlab's idea of market norms is "market where you live + us, literally the only company that hires remote in the world". Spoiler: that only works hiring those who are ignorant of the remote employment market.

Assuming I'm currently ignorant of the remote employment market, where would I go to find data or job listings that would give me a sense of what competitive rates are for remote engineers?

Re: GitLab – A $1B business where all employees work remotely

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That is similar to paying an employee more because they have children and need it more.

I've never heard of a company doing that.

If your boss asks you to work overtime or on the weekends, explaining that you need to bring the kids to soccer is a more convincing argument than explaining that your WoW guild is depending on you for a raid.

Having kids is hard but may make things easier at the office.

Re: GitLab – A $1B business where all employees work remotely

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Can a mod please update the title?

If you feel inclined to, flag the article, but I doubt they will change it as the title of the post is exactly the title of the article.

As an answer to your comment, I had flagged the post. Guess what, they changed the title :)

Re: GitLab – A $1B business where all employees work remotely

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Would be interesting to know if they discriminate pay, according to where the person works from. Edit: Further down the page I saw: "Why they pay based on where team members live". That's petty.

What if somebody in SF was employed remotely by a company in a poorer country? Should the person in SF be paid less because employees in originating country have lower salaries?. Having salaries based on location is fair, the same job that pays 120k$ in SF pays 70k$ in my country and that makes me in top 2% earners in the country. I could argue that i actually get more with 70k$ in my country than somebody with 120k$…

> Having salaries based on location is fair

It's no more fair than paying based on lifestyle choices; if any employee in SF is providing labor worth $200k, then an employee in Bucharest providing the same labor is also worth $200k. The fact that the SF employee has higher expenses doesn't make their labor more valuable. Sure, they are paying more to live in a more desirable location, but that no more deserves higher pay from a remote employer than an employee paying more to live in a bigger house, or to consume more expensive designer drugs outside of work hours.

Re: GitLab – A $1B business where all employees work remotely

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post #57
post #19

Would be interesting to know if they discriminate pay, according to where the person works from. Edit: Further down the page I saw: "Why they pay based on where team members live". That's petty.

What if somebody in SF was employed remotely by a company in a poorer country? Should the person in SF be paid less because employees in originating country have lower salaries?. Having salaries based on location is fair, the same job that pays 120k$ in SF pays 70k$ in my country and that makes me in top 2% earners in the country. I could argue that i actually get more with 70k$ in my country than somebody with 120k$…

>Should the person in SF be paid less because employees in originating country have lower salaries?

So in your view it's fine to pay different amounts of money for the same work?

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