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I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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Post by lsllc »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #52
vharuck wrote: post #47

I like the author's take on warehouse work, probably because it squares with mine. I went to high school with almost entirely white peers, was going to college without having to take on any loans, and I got the warehouse job because my dad worked in the offices. I met people who lived in completely different environments and believed completely different things, and it was awesome. One thing I don't agree with: >If B…

Yes and no. I was once in a HR seminar where they welcomed you to the company. When the woman said "we get 19 days PTO a year", you'd be surprised how many people shot up and said "can we start taking them right now?" Before they had even worked a day! PTO days are accurred by hours worked. For me, it's ~6 hours per 15 calendar days. You think you're entitled to PTO having worked 0 hours?...

Did you know that 40% of sick days are on a Monday or Friday!

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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Post by anigbrowl »

fastball wrote: post #178
anigbrowl wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using the word pejoratively, but I was specifically referring to the handwavey discussion of skull measurement as a synecdoche for the whole article.

Neither do I see a discussion of skull measurement.

Then you should read it again because it's in there.

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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Post by landryraccoon »

sharkweek wrote: post #252
SamReidHughes wrote: post #229

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Not when they get sick every year the last week of December.

Even then, and I can appreciate that it might not be likely, but what if the holidays are a rough time for some and their depression spikes? I’d rather live in a world where I can believe that most people are trustworthy and only a few are not.

You don't want a world where being untrustworthy is easy to get away with and incentivized though, IMO. That contradicts your goal, since it means more people will decide to be untrustworthy.

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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Post by tripzilch »

pnutjam wrote: post #245
zdragnar wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In reverse order: > Are you telling me that the company is lying about the benefits it provides, No, I'm telling you that there's a difference in requirements for taking sick leave versus vacation. The only reason that sick leave doesn't have the same requirement as vacation is you don't choose when you get sick . If you take a sick day as a vacation day, you're forcing others to scramble to make up for you not being…

Understaffed is a management issue, not an employee problem.

I suppose the disabled adults living there have the biggest problem ...

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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Post by anon314134314 »

mcny wrote: post #248
Fomite wrote: post #172

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This was my immediate thought: "I bet she's sick for more than 10 days a year". But who knows. Maybe one of his employees trying to work through being sick will come in and give him norovirus. A man can hope.

Personally, I think PTO subsuming sick leave ought to be illegal. I've seen multiple people with bright, red noses in the office unable to function much but won't go home because they can't afford to take the day off and they already have plans to take PTO two months out. Why should I have to risk getting the flu because of this nonsense?

In Sweden at least, it ("PTO subsuming sick leave") is illegal. Vacation days (of which minimum is 25 for full time employees, but often 30 or more) are a completely separate thing from sick days. When you're sick, you're sick. The employer pays for the first 14 days (minus a deduction of a fifth of a average week's pay and 20% per day) and the state pays after that. Those 14 days are per incident, not per year, and being sick is not a valid reason for letting someone go. If you happen to be sick during your vacation, that too counts as sick days and not vacation days. All of this is by law.

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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Post by toasterlovin »

anigbrowl wrote: post #272
fastball wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neither do I see a discussion of skull measurement.

Then you should read it again because it's in there.

From the article:

> In fact, researchers can classify human variation by continent quite accurately using only data from the human skull. (They are able to correctly classify human skulls into black and white Americans with about 80% accuracy, using only two variables.)

That is the only mention of the word "skull" in the entire article. They link to an article from the American Journal of Physical Anthropology to support this claim. What is the problem with citing peer reviewed research to back a statement about empirical fact?

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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Post by jacorach »

jogjayr wrote: post #251
SamReidHughes wrote: post #229

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Not when they get sick every year the last week of December.

That would be a valid reason to ask for a doctor's note. But even then I'd only do it if their absence is negatively impacting productivity and they're really needed at work. Or if there is something else in their performance I was concerned about. Otherwise a lot of offices are basically empty at that time, so who cares? As long as they're not coming to work when they're actually sick so they can hoard sick days, do…

:If your sick your sick,and you do not need a doctors note to take you sick time you just change it in your Amazon AtoZ. How you use your time is up to you. Rachel-Amazon FC Ambassador

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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Post by anigbrowl »

toasterlovin wrote: post #276
anigbrowl wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you should read it again because it's in there.

From the article: > In fact, researchers can classify human variation by continent quite accurately using only data from the human skull. (They are able to correctly classify human skulls into black and white Americans with about 80% accuracy, using only two variables.) That is the only mention of the word "skull" in the entire article. They link to an article from the American Journal of Physical Anthropology to sup…

I'm using the word pejoratively, but I was specifically referring to the handwavey discussion of skull measurement as a synecdoche for the whole article.

Quillette is a very thinly disguised far right publication, and mainstreaming BS theories of 'race science' is an incremental project that has historically turned out badly. Here's a more detailed treatment of the article's flaws, including the commentary of someone whose scientific work is cited in the article. https://uncommongroundmedia.com/quillettes-attempt-legitimis...

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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Post by toasterlovin »

anigbrowl wrote: post #279
toasterlovin wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: > In fact, researchers can classify human variation by continent quite accurately using only data from the human skull. (They are able to correctly classify human skulls into black and white Americans with about 80% accuracy, using only two variables.) That is the only mention of the word "skull" in the entire article. They link to an article from the American Journal of Physical Anthropology to sup…

I'm using the word pejoratively, but I was specifically referring to the handwavey discussion of skull measurement as a synecdoche for the whole article. Quillette is a very thinly disguised far right publication, and mainstreaming BS theories of 'race science' is an incremental project that has historically turned out badly. Here's a more detailed treatment of the article's flaws, including the commentary of someone…

You can argue with the merits of their arguments, but that article is not an example of "peddling debunked concepts like phrenology" (or whatever your original claim was, I can't get the exact text at this point).

And their discussion about skull measurement was not handwavey. It made one very specific assertion and provided some evidence. Again, they may be wrong, but your description of what happens in that article is not an accurate representation of reality.

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