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Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft

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I assumed every browser did this as a part of their safe browsing features. Or is this different somehow?

Following tweets explain that other browsers send an hashed URL instead. (but I guess it's easy to associate the hash with actual URLs)

Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft

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or you could just, you know, use Firefox

True, but nothing beats MS Edge if you have a touch screen and that it a good enough reason for me to stay with Edge.

Can you save text files that you're looking at in Edge yet? Like if you navigate to a URL that goes https://foo.com/blah.txt can you hit Ctrl+S or right-click on the text page and save the document? The last time I looked at Edge the answer was no.

Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft

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Every time I see people on HN campaigning for Microsoft as some kind of reformed tech company that has seen the errors of its past and turned into a force for good, something like this comes up. Same old Microsoft. Second verse same as the first.

Predictably downvoted. Cannot beat a 1T company that is randomly buying "open" source developer "mind share".

Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft

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True, but nothing beats MS Edge if you have a touch screen and that it a good enough reason for me to stay with Edge.

Can you save text files that you're looking at in Edge yet? Like if you navigate to a URL that goes https://foo.com/blah.txt can you hit Ctrl+S or right-click on the text page and save the document? The last time I looked at Edge the answer was no.

Wow how broken is that? Wondering what the heck was the reasoning there.

Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft

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Every time I see people on HN campaigning for Microsoft as some kind of reformed tech company that has seen the errors of its past and turned into a force for good, something like this comes up. Same old Microsoft. Second verse same as the first.

The good part of Microsoft is the division responsible for languages, compilers and cloud. Meanwhile an old Microsoft makes Windows, Office, etc.

While the latter has improved somewhat, only the former has reformed.

Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft

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Every time I see people on HN campaigning for Microsoft as some kind of reformed tech company that has seen the errors of its past and turned into a force for good, something like this comes up. Same old Microsoft. Second verse same as the first.

Not sure if it's bought or organic, but no other company gets the response Microsoft gets. The smallest triviality get praised, the biggest flaws get rationalized away. Like, people here were going wild when they added UNIX line-ending support to notepad.

Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft

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Every time I see people on HN campaigning for Microsoft as some kind of reformed tech company that has seen the errors of its past and turned into a force for good, something like this comes up. Same old Microsoft. Second verse same as the first.

The good part of Microsoft is the division responsible for languages, compilers and cloud. Meanwhile an old Microsoft makes Windows, Office, etc. While the latter has improved somewhat, only the former has reformed.

>The good part of Microsoft is the division responsible for languages, compilers and cloud.

Putting their telemetry in your compiled binaries is ... real good? Marketing is the only thing that changed.

Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft

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Not to defend Microsoft, but SIDs are non unique. I think theyre only guaranteed to be unique per AD forest with the addition of the RID subauthority. Lots of domains are domain.local or other such commonalities and so may have duplicates. Microsoft would know this, so the intent does not appear surveillance or data collection.

Re: Edge sends full URLs of pages visited to Microsoft

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AFAIK Mozilla does the same.

Mozilla does not send full URLs to a third party. As mentioned in the thread, they use “4-byte URL hash prefixes.” Documentation: https://developers.google.com/safe-browsing/v4/urls-hashing (Disclosure: I work for Google but have nothing to do with the safe browsing API.)

Wait, this is not happening locally, against bloom filters or something?
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