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China’s Built a Railroad to Nowhere in Kenya

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Sad thing this does not mention is the kind of bribes that went into this project

China is not engaging africa out of shrewdness or charity. Its well know to be an area with very weak contracting controls where kickbacks are the norm, not the exception.

China corps are doing this in africa because principals cannot get these kickbacks within china or even south america anymore. I personally know principals at conatruction firms who have told me about projects in cameroon and nigeria that seek nonafrican/nonwestern financiers due to kickback reasons

Re: China’s Built a Railroad to Nowhere in Kenya

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> I wonder why they didn't discover this before they started building the railroad. Because it doesn’t matter to China in any case. The debt these nations take on goes directly back to Chinese firms. If they struggle to pay the money back, even better for China, because that lets them flex more muscle over all of these developing countries they’re investing in. It seems this is more a response to external pressure th…

> It seems this is more a response to external pressure than it is to some new revelation that the projects are infeasible. I'd say no. I've been personally involved with now 4 companies that were directly or indirectly involved in all that OBOR kerfuffle. It was certainly a genuine miscalculation on Chinese side, and a very grave one. An average Chinese bureaucrat knows no more of the outside world than a lifelong g…

I’ve worked with a number of companies in SEA who deal with these kinds of infrastructure projects, and there is quite widespread concern that China’s intention is just to set up a series of debt-traps that it can leverage to achieve further strategic goals. The terms China tends to seek in these deals are also quite predatory. There’s little doubt who’s benefitting the most out of them, especially considering the ways China aggressively minimises their own downsides. This is a topic that has been written on quite extensively, and is likely the primary reason that Japan is outperforming China in SEA infrastructure investments.

If any of these countries do start to struggle paying back this debt, I’m sure there will be some bureaucrat stressing over it in his office in Beijing. That tends to be how the accountability model works in central planning committees. But China is acting a lot like a loan shark in most of these deals, and any default just means they get to exert their influence in other strategically meaningful ways.

It’s also very easy to see how all of this makes perfect sense to China. A lot of their internal mega-projects are starting to flop. Deals like this keep parts of their constructing industry busy, while transferring all the risk to ill-prepared developing nations.

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I did a project in Kazakhstan on turnstiles for the light rail. It was a very weird experience. A nominally 6 months project, which I managed to complete in just 2 months. Nevertheless, they extended my stay for 2 more months during which I did nothing, and was compensated for living and office expenses. Prior to that, I also been to UAE, Kenya and Angola, with a UAV company, trying to sell drones to their respective…

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