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Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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Please explain how this article was: 1. vile 2. right-wing 3. strawman-bestrewn 4. ass-covering 5. spreading FUD thanks

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/quillette/ welcome

I can't be the only person who finds these kinds of so-called 'fact check' sites more sinister than the so-called biased media they're trying to spotlight.

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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Last year, I was interviewed for a public radio show in Europe. There was nothing more exciting for me to be in the spotlight. A week later they ran the interview and it was eerie to hear myself say things I didn't remember saying. I mean, I said it, but I didn't say it like that. At first I thought I was crazy and didn't remember the interview correctly. Luckily, I had recorded the whole session on my computer. I wa…

That's so dishonest it isn't even funny. I was interviewed a few years back because I built an - unreleased - search engine and the interviewer wanted me to say some particular stuff about Google. I refused and the interview atmosphere was definitely very much different after that. There are plenty of good journalists but there are also a bunch of them that are complete jerks that fabricate stuff rather than report on reality.

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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Yes and no. I was once in a HR seminar where they welcomed you to the company. When the woman said "we get 19 days PTO a year", you'd be surprised how many people shot up and said "can we start taking them right now?" Before they had even worked a day! PTO days are accurred by hours worked. For me, it's ~6 hours per 15 calendar days. You think you're entitled to PTO having worked 0 hours?...

For vacation days, your point makes sense to me. For sick days, people don't get to choose when they get sick. Someone can just as easily get sick on day 1 or 2 of a job as on day 401 or 402.

I once talked to a manager about how he handed out raises. He mentioned one engineer who was sick exactly 10 days out of each year. Coincidentally, the company offered 10 days of paid sick leave a year.

He laughed, and said she wasn't fooling anyone, and didn't give her a raise.

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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This comes across as click bait. This is not the opinion of an actual warehouse worker but someone with an agenda who has taken the job specifically for that purpose which only becomes clear once you click through to read the article. What value can this have? How can this be taken seriously?

Let Amazon workers fight for their rights, why are outsiders who do not do that work skeptical of their concerns? What is the basis?

We are always talking about free speech, democracy and protest and yet it seems when people use these rights a whole group of prosperous and well off individuals who don't have anything to do the conditions of the protestors rush to trivialize and dismiss their concerns. There is something extremely mean and smallminded about this.

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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I love this article. It’s so hard to find moderate voices, especially when algorithmic curation tends to surface outrage first. As the author puts it: “I don’t object to journalists writing about the trials and tribulations of Amazon employees. I only wish they would do so fairly. Just because a journalist has found an Amazon employee somewhere who got sprayed with bear repellant, that doesn’t mean Amazon employees s…

Why would we expect journalists to write fair articles? They’re in the infotainment business and need to sell clicks. Reporting that working at a warehouse is “hard work but mostly okay,” is not going to advance that reporters career or help the publication make money. But finding a shocking and at least mostly true story, and ignoring whether or not it’s a 1% outlier, just might. We shouldn’t be surprised by this. W…

> Why would we expect journalists to write fair articles? They’re in the infotainment business and need to sell clicks.

Because if journalists stop writing fair articles in the longer term our societies will lose a lot more than just a bunch of $ in the coffers of the press owners.

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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When I was young I did agency employment for a few years between leaving school and figuring out what I wanted to do. A lot of that was in warehouses (I also worked in greenhouses harvesting cucumbers 45C and 100% humidity, a paint factory moving 15l paint tins all day - never eaten so much or been so fit, 15l tins of bitumen are heavy to handball all day, steel plant that powder coated so hot tanks of acid and full…

Same here. Every day I am grateful that I can earn a large multiple of my former living by just sitting behind a desk.

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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For vacation days, your point makes sense to me. For sick days, people don't get to choose when they get sick. Someone can just as easily get sick on day 1 or 2 of a job as on day 401 or 402.

I once talked to a manager about how he handed out raises. He mentioned one engineer who was sick exactly 10 days out of each year. Coincidentally, the company offered 10 days of paid sick leave a year. He laughed, and said she wasn't fooling anyone, and didn't give her a raise.

Here in NL employees get 2 full consecutive years of paid sick leave before you are allowed to terminate the contract.

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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> It's as plain as day that Amazon isn't keeping manual labor around out of the goodness of their hearts. There is no bottom line calculation other than the cost of manual labor vs the cost of automation, and no amount of deflection about the working conditions of warehouse work (whether better than Home Depot or not) is going to keep your job once the scale tips in the other direction. Be that as it may, agitating f…

That's a valid concern and I think there's no really great path forward, aside from broad structural changes that will blunt the negative consequences of automation: how do you balance good working conditions with the specter of automation? If human labor forever has to undercut the cost of automation, then we can't discount the human cost of doing so.

Automation is a fake problem which has yet to reduce the number of jobs in the world.

People think it's a huge issue because they misread a study about computer manufacturers producing exponentially faster computers since 1970 as saying the manufacturers fired all their workers.

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

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For a second I thought nobody was going to stick up for the bajillion dollar mega corporation. Every employer I've worked for has had: * Billions of dollars less money than Amazon * Better working conditions Amazon doesn't need your voice. The workers who fear an extended bathroom break might get them fired do.

How happy were your customers?

Re: I work in an Amazon warehouse in West Sacramento

#120

Last year, I was interviewed for a public radio show in Europe. There was nothing more exciting for me to be in the spotlight. A week later they ran the interview and it was eerie to hear myself say things I didn't remember saying. I mean, I said it, but I didn't say it like that. At first I thought I was crazy and didn't remember the interview correctly. Luckily, I had recorded the whole session on my computer. I wa…

My friend's friend interviewed me for the college paper re: online poker. Her final article had quotes taken out of context here and there. Painted me as a degenerate gambler drowning in luck. In reality, I had 2 years of positive cash flow and stable, increasing profits with records of every single hand played. Fortunately, the editor threw the article away (I'm not sure why, but I like to think it was seen as biased). How naive I was, though. That article could have been on the reasonably prominent paper website, available to anyone googling me even now. I lost a friend over it. Everyone's got their own agenda. Journalists are just closer to the public eye.
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