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America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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It doesn't have to be low rise housing. Look at Singapore for an example of how high density, high-rise housing can coexist with plentiful public spaces.

Singapore's fertility rates are at the "rock thrown off a cliff" level.

It's not an environmental problem, it's a cultural problem.

People just don't want to have children anymore, fertility rates have dropped a lot post-2012(smartphones and social media)

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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Such a bad take. The actual "elite" in urban centers are the ones walking around with strollers. Have a kid in the big city is the ultimate flex. No one else has kids because they can barely afford to live there themselves, let alone support a kid in it. Edit: Also, it's not as if the author failed to mention that it's expensive to raise families in the city. It's that he says "yes it's really expensive to raise kids…

Well, good point, but you should be more precise: strollers with HUMAN KIDS in them. I swear that at least one in two, perhaps even more, of these strollers today tend to have dogs in them. At least in San Francisco.

That's the most ridiculous thing I've seen anyone on HN say, and I've seen people defending rapists.

I lived in San Francisco for 20 years and never, ever saw that. I'm not some boring techie who never leaves SOMA or the Mission, I've walked every street in san francisco (according to my Garmin), I've had a drink in every bar, I've made music in almost every park.

Have you ever even been to San Francisco?

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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I don't live in a big city or an urban area. I live in a small midwestern town, population 10,000. I paid $40,000 for my 4-bedroom house. I don't have a mortgage. I have TWO gigabit optical Internet connections for which I pay less than $70 per month - since the 1990's! I work remotely only occasionally visiting the fancy places you all speak of, wondering why you put up with what you put up with. I employ several pr…

Are there jobs in that town? That seems to make or break a small town.

I've found it quite easy to freelance on the countryside. There are businesses out here, and since most IT people live in cities there's a lack of them out here. Easy jobs, that pay less than a top job somewhere else, but living is so much cheaper that it doesn't matter.

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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post #200

Such a bad take. The actual "elite" in urban centers are the ones walking around with strollers. Have a kid in the big city is the ultimate flex. No one else has kids because they can barely afford to live there themselves, let alone support a kid in it. Edit: Also, it's not as if the author failed to mention that it's expensive to raise families in the city. It's that he says "yes it's really expensive to raise kids…

“violent downtowns typified by the ‘mean streets’ of the 1970s became clean and safe in the 1990s” While I’m not trying to be overly critical, he is also off base with his violent crime statistics as the nineties had the highest aggregate number of murders up until the end of the decade.

20 years after Roe vs Wade.

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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Well, good point, but you should be more precise: strollers with HUMAN KIDS in them. I swear that at least one in two, perhaps even more, of these strollers today tend to have dogs in them. At least in San Francisco.

That's the most ridiculous thing I've seen anyone on HN say, and I've seen people defending rapists. I lived in San Francisco for 20 years and never, ever saw that. I'm not some boring techie who never leaves SOMA or the Mission, I've walked every street in san francisco (according to my Garmin), I've had a drink in every bar, I've made music in almost every park. Have you ever even been to San Francisco?

There's a few images on Google which makes it sound like it happens.

I don't know if it's ever going to be anywhere near 1:2.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=san+francisco+stroller+wit...

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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post #133

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Singapore is tiny, not much more than a city-state. Rates of drug use is also a matter of honest reporting. And wow are you really advocating execution of people with addiction and mental health issues that use drugs?

Japan is not tiny, and has a fraction of our drug use. They’re also brutal with drug crime. I wouldn’t execute drug addicts. But their pushers? Line-em right up!

You realise that most/many addicts will sell small amounts to other addicts?'

Do you advocate the death sentence for drug company executives as well?

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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so forgive my ignorance as this might be a cultural difference, but why have separate rooms for each play function? I mean, isn't a play room and a computer game room and even a music room just overlapping ?

The music room is for music. Why would you play computer games in the music room? Computer games are played in the computer games room. Hope this helps sweetie, I know a lot about rooms.

Please don't be like this on HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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post #200

Such a bad take. The actual "elite" in urban centers are the ones walking around with strollers. Have a kid in the big city is the ultimate flex. No one else has kids because they can barely afford to live there themselves, let alone support a kid in it. Edit: Also, it's not as if the author failed to mention that it's expensive to raise families in the city. It's that he says "yes it's really expensive to raise kids…

Well, good point, but you should be more precise: strollers with HUMAN KIDS in them. I swear that at least one in two, perhaps even more, of these strollers today tend to have dogs in them. At least in San Francisco.

If you leave those few neighborhoods that techies never leave? The Sunsets, West Portal, Portala, Hayes Valley, the Outer Richmond, Noe, Glen Park, the Excelsior, the Outer Mission, Bayview / Hunter's point? The areas where brogrammers don't venture are filled with screaming children, obnoxiously so.

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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post #168

The arguments in this article seem extremely dramatic, simplistic and unsupported. Just one example out of many I found in the article: jobs in big cities are the highest paying. Thus, the article quickly announces then moves on, living in a big city equals a “winner takes all” situation, which leads to dramatic inequality. How does that remotely support such a dramatic conclusion? Does having a bit less paying job m…

> Do the lower costs of living outside big cities not offset the lower wages?

At least in Europe I have found that while salaries can be a bit higher in cities (maybe 10-20%) compared to rural areas, the housing cost can be massively higher (200-500% higher). The difference between regional and capital cities is smaller, but can still be important.

This doesn't take into account other costs such as food (supermarkets are cheaper) and entertainment (mostly because there's less of it and mountainbiking in the forest is largely free).

I'm always surprised so few people seem to realize and take advantage of this.

Re: America’s urban rebirth is missing actual births

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post #295

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That's the most ridiculous thing I've seen anyone on HN say, and I've seen people defending rapists. I lived in San Francisco for 20 years and never, ever saw that. I'm not some boring techie who never leaves SOMA or the Mission, I've walked every street in san francisco (according to my Garmin), I've had a drink in every bar, I've made music in almost every park. Have you ever even been to San Francisco?

There's a few images on Google which makes it sound like it happens. I don't know if it's ever going to be anywhere near 1:2. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=san+francisco+stroller+wit...

People come to San Francisco, and just lie about what they see. They don't really observe anything, they just repeat the myths and paranoid lies that they read on reddit and HN!

The city that I know, have supported, run companies, run punk venues, run hacker houses, and taught children to program does not bear any resemblance to the views of recent techie imports.

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