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https://www.teamblind.com/blog/index.php/2018/08/16/65-perce...

Self-selected (those who choose to answer the poll in their app) sample (7k of 100k) of the population.

More so: 7k replied, 64% against the censored search engine.

Of those 7k a smaller number were Google employees (it does not say the number) and among them 65% approved of censored search.

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If you don't like the ethics council... and you protest it, and then they disband it ... that would involve a dramatic change if your role was on it. Retaliation or not, there would be some change. So any change, not sure I buy is/isn't retaliation.

She was not on the AI board that Google disbanded.

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They're the people making Google work. Why shouldn't they be entitled?

Some people think the leaders of Google are entitled to unilaterally decide what people at Google work on, and if you resist that sense of entitlement, people call you entitled.

That's.. how... employment.... works.....?

Re: Google Protest Leader Leaves

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Rowboat politics. If one of the rowers decides that she doesn't like the direction the coxswain is steering and starts to row in the other direction, it tends to annoy the other rowers. This is true whether she is right or not. If she can't change the coxswain's mind it's better for both her and the rest of the crew for her to find another rowboat.

Your analogy fails right away with a simple example: if the renegade rower realizes that the team is rowing towards a waterfall, then it is indeed not in the team’s best interest to push him or her out.

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Some people think the leaders of Google are entitled to unilaterally decide what people at Google work on, and if you resist that sense of entitlement, people call you entitled.

If you're the one paying for the work, you're entitled to say what the work will be. In this case 'you' is Google shareholders, through their representatives. Nobody is entitled to be paid to do what they choose. If you want to do something for your own personal reasons, do it off the clock.

There's no good reason to think like this. If you're the one doing the work, you're entitled to say collectively with your fellow employees what it should be.

Re: Google Protest Leader Leaves

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post #91

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Some people think the leaders of Google are entitled to unilaterally decide what people at Google work on, and if you resist that sense of entitlement, people call you entitled.

That's.. how... employment.... works.....?

You can't get an ought from an is.

Re: Google Protest Leader Leaves

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post #91

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Some people think the leaders of Google are entitled to unilaterally decide what people at Google work on, and if you resist that sense of entitlement, people call you entitled.

Seriously? Leaders who hired you and pay you are entitled to direct your work. What planet are you from?

Sorry I was taught as a kid that just power is derived from the consent of the governed. Must be weird for some people.

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Interesting to see as polarization increases, as it will given the environment, whether a company can break into two along political lines. Has that happened before in history? I wouldn't mind a seperate conservative google and a liberal google. Let the quality of the product offered decide which is better.

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Until recently Silicon Valley was very libertarian (and before that conservative due to high levels of defense contracting). It wasn't until ~2010 that things started becoming overtly left wing/democrat. I can't say that period has given us a lot of technological innovation compared to the previous period.

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Are you implying that their actions cannot be gender biased?

I mean, they can be, but is there any reason to believe they are? Have male leaders of similar protests been treated better? Surely it's not right to infer gender bias just because the victims are women.

There haven't been male leaders of a similar protest (that is, a protest claiming repeated sexual harassment). At least, not to my knowledge...

Re: Google Protest Leader Leaves

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But your work is innately political.

what is political about this? for(const i = 0; i < 100; i++) { ... }

Hard to tell if your are intentionally or not ignoring the fact that code as a whole serves a specific purpose, and that purpose can itself be very political. Either way, this is an incredibly embarrassing response.
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