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Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux

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Re: Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux

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There have been numerous attempts to move to open source in Russia. Most of them failed. Example: Linux in schools. 1. Teachers don't know much about linux 2. Computers aren't fast enough to work with GNOME (which is default in most packages they install) 3. Kids don't get it. Open office is the only familiar-looking application there. 4. They won't be able to apply their skills anywhere add: 5. Microsoft makes some…

I can see those being setbacks, but on each point: 1. I'm not sure on the situation in Russia, but in the US, a lot of teachers don't know much about Windows or OS X either, but unless something breaks they wouldn't have to. 2. Gnome's memory footprint is rather large, sadly. Depending on whether the Russian authorities roll their own custom distro or image though, they could use XFCE instead. 3. As things move more…

if they can run windows already, then they have more than enough memory to run Gnome.

Re: Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux

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Putin already has enough money from gas'n'oil, he doesn't give a shit. And it's not about money, it's about power. Talking bout piracy - there is majority of illegal software in business, universities and schools. Not to mention homes. I'm talking about Windows, Office, Photoshop, Games. Even the biggest Russian social network (vKontakte) is currently largest unlicensed mp3/video storage. I always wondered, what they…

What exactly do you bribe a guy estimated to have 40 billion in liquid assets with? It's funny because I am sure a corrupt Russian politician must have a strange existential crisis when they get that much money. It's like that guy who built the $300 million dollar custom yacht because you literally can't spend that much money on a house if you tried. There's this website EnglishRussia.com where they have regular feat…

"...you literally can't spend that much money on a house if you tried." Well this Idiot is building $2 Billion house. http://www.mwilliams.info/archive/2008/06/twobillion-dollar-...

Re: Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux

#35

There have been numerous attempts to move to open source in Russia. Most of them failed. Example: Linux in schools. 1. Teachers don't know much about linux 2. Computers aren't fast enough to work with GNOME (which is default in most packages they install) 3. Kids don't get it. Open office is the only familiar-looking application there. 4. They won't be able to apply their skills anywhere add: 5. Microsoft makes some…

1. There are many news about linux installation in schools. I don't mean Moscow. Most installation done in regions.

2. There are special packages for slow computers.

3. Kids are learning linux

4. Many entrepreneurs start to use linux on their companies. I saw it in shops and banks.

5. Microsoft is evil

Re: Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not exactly. More like the IIPA filing more complaints against Russia and keeping them on the Special 301 list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_301_Report#Complaints_b... Bribing in Russia is a home game, so no go there. Putins plane might have a malfunction though.

Are you seriously suggesting that Microsoft will attempt an assassination of a country leader? Or did I misread your comment?

Hey, most people probably believe that NURV was really Microsoft, and that they really do murder open-source hackers and steal their code; and bribe government officials... not a big leap to assassination.

Re: Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stats? Cite? The use of Linux may be increasing, but enough to qualify Asia as "moving to Linux?" Piracy of MS products is common throughout Asia, regardless of the occasional bootleg clampdown theater.

Because its free its difficult to track stats. Many are not connected to the Internet in Asia. China has mandated that all Internet cafe's use Red Linux. Schools are also changing to Linux. Type "linux India" into Google news and you will see evidence. Ms are common but that will change. Many were burned on vista, many will not upgrade to seven and when XP runs out, some more will go to Linux.

Lets not forget Chrome.

Re: Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux

#38

There have been numerous attempts to move to open source in Russia. Most of them failed. Example: Linux in schools. 1. Teachers don't know much about linux 2. Computers aren't fast enough to work with GNOME (which is default in most packages they install) 3. Kids don't get it. Open office is the only familiar-looking application there. 4. They won't be able to apply their skills anywhere add: 5. Microsoft makes some…

1. They don't know much about Windows, either.

2. If they are fast enough for Windows, they are fast enough for GNOME. If not, you can use light desktops like enlightenment.

3. Kids learn way waster than adults(I have worked with kids and Linux at the same time).

4.????? If things continue the way they are, Windows users are those that won't be able to apply their skills, you will need UNIX skills.

5.Also do Linux, who came almost free.

6. When your computer runs Windows or mac, NSA and three letters foreign agencies(for Russians) could tap any computer they want to steal industrial, military and political secrets as they are strategic interest for America.

7. Energy prices are going up, that means Russian economy is going up for the next 2, 3 years, they have money to do what they want.

Re: Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux

#39

There have been numerous attempts to move to open source in Russia. Most of them failed. Example: Linux in schools. 1. Teachers don't know much about linux 2. Computers aren't fast enough to work with GNOME (which is default in most packages they install) 3. Kids don't get it. Open office is the only familiar-looking application there. 4. They won't be able to apply their skills anywhere add: 5. Microsoft makes some…

I can see those being setbacks, but on each point: 1. I'm not sure on the situation in Russia, but in the US, a lot of teachers don't know much about Windows or OS X either, but unless something breaks they wouldn't have to. 2. Gnome's memory footprint is rather large, sadly. Depending on whether the Russian authorities roll their own custom distro or image though, they could use XFCE instead. 3. As things move more…

    2. Gnome's memory footprint is rather large, 
    sadly. 
It is?

I do quite a bit of work inside an ubuntu installation on VirtualBox that is setup for a maximum of 1gb ram and it seems to work fine (I haven't seen a computer with less than 1gb of RAM installed in years, but I've also never been to a Russian school, so who knows).

A default ubuntu installation with the gnome desktop loaded up shows about 800mb free out of that 1gb, and I am sure a nice chunk of those 200mb include stuff other than gnome.

Pretty sure it would be a bit sluggish at times, but it would probably still be very usable even if you only had 512mb of RAM.

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