The most concerning quote: "About 80 percent of Chinese students who get degrees abroad now go back — up from about 33 percent in 2007, according to China’s Ministry of Education. Some 15 percent take jobs in China’s booming tech sector." Attracting top global talent has always been a competitive advance for America, and it's not a good sign for our economy if we can't retain people that we are educating here.
There are simple ways to deal with it. Remove the caps on Indian or other country Visas. The world is quite big.
I see the trend in my coworkers at a big-four ad tech firm as well. At least a couple of them have gone home in the last six months (one of them had her H1B approved less than a year ago as well; and another one already is nearing her STEM OPT extension of 18 months). I came to the US in mid 2000 to study at a fairly well-known liberal arts college (with full scholarships). I worked at a start-up in SF after graduati…
The silver lining is may be at least you do not seem to be from India or China whose waiting period for GC is 70+ years for EB3 right now apparently
That is true. As a side note, I also empathize with the cries from citizens of the US who have been residing here since they were born and have been facing competition from global economy and migration.
But I think that is going to be the norm going forward (unless we come up with a better alternative to capitalism); none of us are promised abundant freedom and opportunity unless we strive and work hard to take it. In other words, prosperity does not come easy in this competitive age...
Does anybody know how hard it is for non-Chinese citizens to live and work in China? One of the competitive advantages of the US has been its ability to draw top talent from all over the world and not just its own citizens. Chinese citizens leaving the US is not a good thing, but it is just one nationality. If China manages to draw talent from everywhere, then the US has a real problem ahead of it. For example, my te…
> Does anybody know how hard it is for non-Chinese citizens to live and work in China? It used to be easy... My first work visa to China took just 1 week to get: no criminal check, no work history check, no academic credentials check, you just get it. Now people are saying it takes from 1 to 3 months. Dark skinned people have hard time in China. Fat people, even worse. Shenzhen looks like a totalitarian fairyland — a…
Hold on. What's the deal with being fat?
They're literally refusing visa because people are fat?
The most concerning quote: "About 80 percent of Chinese students who get degrees abroad now go back — up from about 33 percent in 2007, according to China’s Ministry of Education. Some 15 percent take jobs in China’s booming tech sector." Attracting top global talent has always been a competitive advance for America, and it's not a good sign for our economy if we can't retain people that we are educating here.
I wonder how much of this has to do with relationships? If I was Chinese man who came to America for school and was single, I'd move back to China too. Study after study shows that the dating game odds are not good for that particular demographic in the US.
In the case of India, the men seek arranged marriages and bring their wives. Women (parents) express preferences like they want men settled abroad, or that they studied nursing and got the English certifications to work abroad, or are in the process of getting a permanent residency. Bad dating prospects != dying lonely.
Renting an apartment in Shanghai isn't necessarily that expensive, it just costs a lot if you want to buy one. E.g. here are listings for 1000 yuan per month or less: https://sh.zu.fang.com/house/c20-d21000-n31/ I wouldn't believe any of the other claims made (e.g. the size is probably exaggerated), but behind each of these listings is someone willing to actually offer living space for that price. The highest price c…
Welcome to China. These listings are all fake. Real "bottom" for non-shared apartment in Shanghai is ~3000 rmb (~$500) for a smallish place with a 1+ hour commute. Rents in the downtown are around 10000+ rmb.
I paid 1600 RMB per month for 18 m² in Minhang, fully furnished, with cooktop in a corner of the living room and own bathroom. Your "bottom" is not the actual bottom. Those places for 1000 RMB or less are super tiny (as I said, the size on the listing is exaggerated), but they do exist.
> yes, I'm dead serious, Americans want everything and they don't like rules Best not be so serious: You're mistaken. Is a whipping a proper punishment for chewing gum left on a Singapore sidewalk? > Step inside a land/house by accident and gets killed by the homeowner's M14 is just... nuts (yes I know I'm exaggerating a bit). Does the dead seriousness lead you to believe Americans approve of this nutso reaction?
Caning is not used for minor offences, only for violent crime. It's more like a $300 fine
I recall a famous incident where US teens were caned for grafitti, you are mistaken.
Remote work will take it even further with remote salaries exploding. Being underdog in expensive 1st world country vs living like a king while telecommuting from mother's country - no brainer. And human rights become a minority problem. Harsh but real.
Any pro tips to go remote?
What imhoguy said, with particular emphasis on networking. Once you go remote it's hard to stay remote -- networking and having contacts is a must.
The take away from the networking thing is Trust. You need to be able to demonstrate you can be trusted, that you're not secretly a bunch of kids in a trenchcoat or a fake, Western-sounding name that's a front end for a few Vietnamese kids putting out shit-tier code.
Maybe you should actually spend some time in China before making silly assumptions. The Chinese government is not overly concerned with individual citizens sharing anti-government sentiment. It's not a problem for most people that aren't activists. Most people are concerned with much more basic aspects of life... supporting their families, getting good jobs, time for leisure... It doesn't mean it's acceptable, but as…
That is not true. The Chinese government has been actively monitoring [0] all popular online messaging platforms, and shutting down any opinion that is considered by the government anti-government. There is also some new network security law [1] that enforces companies, from ISP to website operators, to self-censor, and to pinpoint every action from every user, such that officials could collect the data as they wish…
that's why people don't really want to debate. A thinks B is brainwashed. full stop. There is no debate.
> yes, I'm dead serious, Americans want everything and they don't like rules Best not be so serious: You're mistaken. Is a whipping a proper punishment for chewing gum left on a Singapore sidewalk? > Step inside a land/house by accident and gets killed by the homeowner's M14 is just... nuts (yes I know I'm exaggerating a bit). Does the dead seriousness lead you to believe Americans approve of this nutso reaction?
Caning is not used for minor offences, only for violent crime. It's more like a $300 fine
Marijuana possession, an extremely minor offense by any measure, is punishable by death in Singapore.
> Does anybody know how hard it is for non-Chinese citizens to live and work in China? It used to be easy... My first work visa to China took just 1 week to get: no criminal check, no work history check, no academic credentials check, you just get it. Now people are saying it takes from 1 to 3 months. Dark skinned people have hard time in China. Fat people, even worse. Shenzhen looks like a totalitarian fairyland — a…
Hold on. What's the deal with being fat? They're literally refusing visa because people are fat?
Poor treatment by the locals, similar to racism experienced by dark-skinned people.