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Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by Razengan »

hnarn wrote: post #72
Razengan wrote: post #12

Things like these is why most Mac converts never want to return to Windows. Not just the issue in TFA/post, which may seem trivial, but the overall “telemetry” debacle and experiences like jtdev’s comment. For all their claims of having reformed, Microsoft will always be that ex you don’t want to do anything with ever again. There are worse horrors than the lack of a physical Escape key, waiting on the other side of…

> Things like these is why most Mac converts never want to return to Windows. This sounds like a false dichotomy. There are, of course, other and cheaper ways of getting out of using Windows than buying an Apple computer.

Yes, but in all the recent Touch Bar hatewagon pile-ons, many commenters try to suggest moving to this or that Windows laptop, without understanding that it is Windows we want to avoid in the first place.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by est31 »

godelski wrote: post #78
chefandy wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux machines are fantastic if you don't need to use commercial software for things like graphics, as many web-focused developers do.

I do graphics, but on the scientific side, we all use Linux. Except when the lab provides us Macs, then we get frustrated and just remote in. I'm just trying to detangle the type of graphics being mentioned. I do wish Nvidia drivers were better, but maybe that'll happen with ROCs coming out soon.

May I ask what ROCs is and why is it making Nvidia drivers better?

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by damnyou »

Razengan wrote: post #12

Things like these is why most Mac converts never want to return to Windows. Not just the issue in TFA/post, which may seem trivial, but the overall “telemetry” debacle and experiences like jtdev’s comment. For all their claims of having reformed, Microsoft will always be that ex you don’t want to do anything with ever again. There are worse horrors than the lack of a physical Escape key, waiting on the other side of…

The discussion is about a Windows build node — you can't even run MacOS on typical datacenter hardware!

These are just the incentives that capitalism creates. Microsoft's abusive ad practices, Apple's abusive hardware lock in. C'est la vie. The only stack that isn't structurally abusive to users is Linux, but of course it's Linux.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by Someone1234 »

css wrote: post #39
nathankunicki wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comment on randomly opening windows is fair (I don't see what caused it either), but this was a build VM, not a workstation - there is no reason to upgrade the browser. A more pertinent question is why are MS still shipping IE by default.

A lot of enterprise software from Oracle still requires Java 6 and a J2SE plug-in, which only run in IE for whatever reason.

> which only run in IE for whatever reason.

Java Applets (and Flash) were built on the NPAPI APIs (as "plug-ins"). Historically NPAPI was supported by every major browser.

NPAPI/Plug-ins are insecure/cannot be sandboxed. After Flash died, browsers quickly dropped NPAPI support (namely Opera 2016, Chrome in 2015, Firefox in 2017, Safari in 2018, etc) and Edge never supported it.

Internet Explorer is the only browser with a large install-base that still supports native plugins and by extension Java Applet. It is essentially Microsoft's "compatibility" browser, a safe haven for the last remaining ActiveX/NPAPI Plug-ins/Flash/Java Applets/etc.

Extensions by contrast are much more secure, as they run completely in a browser's context and can be isolated/sandbox/have permissions, but aren't suitable for running a full speed virtual machine (although Web Assembly could change that) like Java or Flash.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by pkulak »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #82
chefandy wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux machines are fantastic if you don't need to use commercial software for things like graphics, as many web-focused developers do.

Between Gimp, Inkscape and Krita, what are the things not covered in this domain?

I've gotten way too addicted to DxO. But it runs fine in a VM.

That said, I only use it a couple times a month. If I had to run it professionally, I'm not sure I'd be down.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by jimmaswell »

iforgotpassword wrote: post #40
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #10

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You are ludicrously incorrect, just as everyone for the past 2 decades has been when they have predicted the year of the Linux Desktop. This trend will continue until Linux Desktop people stop underestimating what users actually do with computers.

> This trend will continue until Linux Desktop people stop underestimating what users actually do with computers. Nothing. They use apps on their Linux phones, or happily use any OS that runs a browser since everything is web based today. Oh and for gaming there is consoles of course, which crushes the PC gaming market in pretty much any discipline. The only people remaining dependent on desktops (or laptops) will be…

I bought a used Xbox One for the sole purpose of some exclusives and for multiplayer with a few people I know who use Xboxes. There are a few nice points like it being totally separate from the stuff going on on the PC but I'd have no reason to own it if it weren't for the two primary reasons I mentioned. It doesn't even support my new monitor's 1440p res apparently and there's no way I'm buying a new one just for that.

I'm hoping the rumors about Win10 eventually supporting all Xbox games natively are true.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by fit2rule »

belltaco wrote: post #58
fit2rule wrote: post #49

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>What kind of super old Windows version were these people running? Build-servers.

Why aren't they running Windows Server if it's a server? MSN does not load on IE in Windows Server.

Dunno, maybe they have it set up this way to build something, and one of the tools requires IE/Internet access?

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by johnchristopher »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #82
chefandy wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux machines are fantastic if you don't need to use commercial software for things like graphics, as many web-focused developers do.

Between Gimp, Inkscape and Krita, what are the things not covered in this domain?

Does gimp feature non-destructive multiple filtering on layers yet ? Photoshop CS2 (and you know why I mention that specific version) from more than ten years ago has it.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by marcosdumay »

godelski wrote: post #78
chefandy wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux machines are fantastic if you don't need to use commercial software for things like graphics, as many web-focused developers do.

I do graphics, but on the scientific side, we all use Linux. Except when the lab provides us Macs, then we get frustrated and just remote in. I'm just trying to detangle the type of graphics being mentioned. I do wish Nvidia drivers were better, but maybe that'll happen with ROCs coming out soon.

> I do wish Nvidia drivers were better

Get AMD. Why do people insist on getting Nvidia cards and then complain that those aren't aimed at them? Get the one that is selling to you.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by Apaec »

zarathustraa wrote: post #21
jchw wrote: post #2

The duality of modern Microsoft is absolutely astounding. How they can simultaneously do incredible things for Github, and open source Windows components, while continuing to not fix the most user hostile Windows ever produced, is completely bonkers. My litmus test for whether Windows is finally fixed is whether of not it’s possible to install it without Candy Crush, but unfortunately without killing the network and…

> My litmus test for whether Windows is finally fixed is whether of not it’s possible to install it without Candy Crush https://mspoweruser.com/rejoice-windows-users-candy-crush-is... What's you new litmus test?

It's still an stupid mistake MS made that could be once back. That's enough for me for staying away from the MS tax for life.
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