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Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by freehunter »

belltaco wrote: post #61
snazz wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As people use desktops less and less, they care less and less about what runs on them.

That narrative of the post-PC world collapsed when the sales of tablets like iPads collapsed.

Couple of things:

1) Tablets aren't the only "post-PC" platform. Most of the leisure computing is done on smartphones when it would have been done on a laptop or desktop 5-10 years ago.

2) If we're considering tablets to be PC replacements, we should expect their sales trends to be along the lines of PC sales. People keep PCs a lot longer than smartphones, so we should expect people to keep their iPads a lot longer than their phones too.

3) Tablet sales have absolutely not collapsed [1]

[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/272595/global-shipments-...

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

#82

Post by semi-extrinsic »

chefandy wrote: post #63
Razengan wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps we should all keep and maintain a Linux machine in the event that Apple and Microsoft both decide to screw us over.

Linux machines are fantastic if you don't need to use commercial software for things like graphics, as many web-focused developers do.

Between Gimp, Inkscape and Krita, what are the things not covered in this domain?

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

#83

Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

iforgotpassword wrote: post #40
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are ludicrously incorrect, just as everyone for the past 2 decades has been when they have predicted the year of the Linux Desktop. This trend will continue until Linux Desktop people stop underestimating what users actually do with computers.

> This trend will continue until Linux Desktop people stop underestimating what users actually do with computers. Nothing. They use apps on their Linux phones, or happily use any OS that runs a browser since everything is web based today. Oh and for gaming there is consoles of course, which crushes the PC gaming market in pretty much any discipline. The only people remaining dependent on desktops (or laptops) will be…

> They use apps on their Linux phones

Somehow I doubt Android is what Linux Desktop evangelists imagined. At best this is moving the goal posts significantly.

> or happily use any OS that runs a browser since everything is web based today.

Apparently that doesn't include Linux, despite it being free, not having invasive telemetry, and not having ads in the application launcher.

> Oh and for gaming there is consoles of course, which crushes the PC gaming market in pretty much any discipline.

And yet Steam is a ridiculously huge money maker and people are buying more PC games than ever.

> The only people remaining dependent on desktops (or laptops) will be office workers

Incorrect, but let's entertain your fantasies anyway.

> I'm pretty sure they don't care about DirectX so much, so replacing those with Linux seems very doable

Then why hasn't it happened? You think companies like paying licensing fees to Microsoft?

Consider that there are good reasons people do not use Linux Desktop instead of just assuming they're all idiots.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

#84

Post by longcommonname »

ctrl-j wrote: post #37
Razengan wrote: post #12

Things like these is why most Mac converts never want to return to Windows. Not just the issue in TFA/post, which may seem trivial, but the overall “telemetry” debacle and experiences like jtdev’s comment. For all their claims of having reformed, Microsoft will always be that ex you don’t want to do anything with ever again. There are worse horrors than the lack of a physical Escape key, waiting on the other side of…

I love the idea of Apple being more privacy focused, and helping us keep our data more secure. I have a touchbar macbook pro, and a headphone-jackless iphone. I just wish they wouldn't beat me with their opinionated hardware and software choices. Deprecating open gl. Eliminating 32-bit support. Forcing me to use dongle after dongle (ethernet, usb-A, HDMI, and SD card) Magic mouse has such a terrible sensor, not to me…

How long do you think a major OS should have 32 bit support? Everything cant be supported forever.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by RHSeeger »

iforgotpassword wrote: post #40
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are ludicrously incorrect, just as everyone for the past 2 decades has been when they have predicted the year of the Linux Desktop. This trend will continue until Linux Desktop people stop underestimating what users actually do with computers.

> This trend will continue until Linux Desktop people stop underestimating what users actually do with computers. Nothing. They use apps on their Linux phones, or happily use any OS that runs a browser since everything is web based today. Oh and for gaming there is consoles of course, which crushes the PC gaming market in pretty much any discipline. The only people remaining dependent on desktops (or laptops) will be…

> Oh and for gaming there is consoles of course, which crushes the PC gaming market in pretty much any discipline.

You're obviously not a PC gamer. The question of console vs PC is still widely debated, with no clear winner. At least to me, they both have their own uses. There are things that are much better on a console than a PC, and vice versa.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

#86

Post by penagwin »

silversconfused wrote: post #9
simplyinfinity wrote: post #3

The guy probably has infected machine... which is far more likely than MS runing ad farm

We have all the proof we need that MS is running an ad farm from the base windows experience. What proof do you have that he was infected with malware beyond that?

From my other comment:

I see people talking about ad farming - but this seems like for whatever reason IE was opened - and it's default home page is MSN, which has ads.

Where are you getting ad farming from?

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by la_barba »

iforgotpassword wrote: post #40
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are ludicrously incorrect, just as everyone for the past 2 decades has been when they have predicted the year of the Linux Desktop. This trend will continue until Linux Desktop people stop underestimating what users actually do with computers.

> This trend will continue until Linux Desktop people stop underestimating what users actually do with computers. Nothing. They use apps on their Linux phones, or happily use any OS that runs a browser since everything is web based today. Oh and for gaming there is consoles of course, which crushes the PC gaming market in pretty much any discipline. The only people remaining dependent on desktops (or laptops) will be…

You are discounting a very very large professional worker segment that relies of domain specific tools. We need more than a netbook with a browser. For e.g. In pharma, we wouldn't get any work done if we didn't use Windows. All of our software requires windows - analysis software, control software, automation software etc, etc. In our labs we're using software made for Windows XP on Windows 10, because it just works, and buying the newer version would cost thousands of dollars. If we were an architecture company we'd buy autocad or whatever, or if we were an accounting firm, we'd buy quickbooks or quicken, etc, etc.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

#88

Post by PascLeRasc »

dzink wrote: post #16
jtdev wrote: post #6

A related observation: I have between 4-8 *nix, MacOS, iOS, machines running on my home network at any given time. I’m using piHole (with base config) to block ad traffic. My blocked percentage hovers around ~10%... until I boot up my one Windows 10 machine, which spikes the blocked ad traffic to ~25% and remains that high -with zero applications running mind you - until I shutdown the machine, after which it quickly…

I’ve seen less on the Windows 10 Pro version (switched off all datasending features on install).

"less ads" for $99 [1] isn't a great value proposition to me.

[1] https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/upgrade-windows-10-pro/

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

#89

Post by bduerst »

RHSeeger wrote: post #85
iforgotpassword wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This trend will continue until Linux Desktop people stop underestimating what users actually do with computers. Nothing. They use apps on their Linux phones, or happily use any OS that runs a browser since everything is web based today. Oh and for gaming there is consoles of course, which crushes the PC gaming market in pretty much any discipline. The only people remaining dependent on desktops (or laptops) will be…

> Oh and for gaming there is consoles of course, which crushes the PC gaming market in pretty much any discipline. You're obviously not a PC gamer. The question of console vs PC is still widely debated, with no clear winner. At least to me, they both have their own uses. There are things that are much better on a console than a PC, and vice versa.

Gaming streaming is going to muddy that further. It won't replace consoles or pcs for gaming, but it will definitely create a third market for people with decent internet connections.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

longcommonname wrote: post #84
ctrl-j wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love the idea of Apple being more privacy focused, and helping us keep our data more secure. I have a touchbar macbook pro, and a headphone-jackless iphone. I just wish they wouldn't beat me with their opinionated hardware and software choices. Deprecating open gl. Eliminating 32-bit support. Forcing me to use dongle after dongle (ethernet, usb-A, HDMI, and SD card) Magic mouse has such a terrible sensor, not to me…

How long do you think a major OS should have 32 bit support? Everything cant be supported forever.

Why not? We live in a world where the latest processor from Intel still boots into 16 bit real mode, and we have emulators and virtual machines.
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