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Re: Apple begins exporting India-made iPhones to European markets

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Post by tsjq »

umeshunni wrote: post #11
dsl wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple already uses multiple suppliers for each stage of production, so shipping production lines to other countries wouldn't be that difficult. Beyond that you'd just be sourcing bulk components, which I'm sure their Chinese suppliers will happily ship to India. Raw materials like the aluminum could be locally sourced.

> which I'm sure their Chinese suppliers will happily ship to India That's a good point. The requirements seems to be about locally sourcing components, not locally manufacturing them. It's entirely possible for a Chinese company to have a subsidiary in India that's supplying components to Apple.

>It's entirely possible for a Chinese company to have a subsidiary in India that's supplying components to Apple

IIRC : isn't it Foxconn making the phones in India too ?

Re: Apple begins exporting India-made iPhones to European markets

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Post by tsjq »

techie128 wrote: post #66
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #18

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Water scarcity is going to be a problem.

India has plenty of water. The problem plaguing South India, specifically Chennai, was anticipated. The central government was fixing it. However it lacked sufficient support from the state government.

Nov-Dec : wooo. Chennai is flooded. (after 1night heavy rain)

May-June : wooo. Chennai is parched.

just utter callous ruling that state .

Re: Apple begins exporting India-made iPhones to European markets

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Post by riffraff »

unexpected wrote: post #47
rorykoehler wrote: post #25

I have mixed feelings about the move of manufacturing to India. Whilst I would like Indians to be economically successful I can't ignore the ecological disaster that is happening in their country. It is absolutely terrifying. The air in Mumbai was unbreathable when I visited and it wasn't even ranking remotely near the top in the most polluted city air in India at the time (Delhi's was 3x as bad). Adding to this the…

Let's use your reasons, but look at it from the opposite side: 1) The largest contributor to the poor air quality in India is the practice of burning to clear fields, cook stoves that use wood, and the burning of cow dung [ https://www.vox.com/2018/5/8/17316978/india-pollution-levels... ]. One easy way to bring these people out of poverty is to provide them with good economic opportunities (like factory jobs!). High-…

Notice birth rate in India is already close to 2 kids per woman, so not far from "rich countries" averages.

Re: Apple begins exporting India-made iPhones to European markets

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Post by rorykoehler »

pushtheenvelope wrote: post #59
code_duck wrote: post #38

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So there’s the choice of malnutrition or pollution?

Nope - I don’t think there is, but the parent (to my original comment) seemed to be suggesting so

You're reading into something that isn't there. The best and most equitable way to improve quality of life is to ensure a clean environment. Pollution is a great leveler, especially air pollution, as rich and poor have to breathe it alike if they wish to go outside.

Re: Apple begins exporting India-made iPhones to European markets

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Post by geraltofrivia »

rorykoehler wrote: post #41
pushtheenvelope wrote: post #30

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Your comment is rather patronising. Every year that goes by where India doesn't raise its standard of living, results in millions of stunted childhoods and lives. India needs all the manufacturing growth it can get. The equivalent to your comment would be Indians on this forum leaving gratuitious remarks about the West ruining the planet with its excessively polluting ways. Just because you cannot see it around you,…

It's not patronising at all. It's the reality. They got major shit to deal with. We all do but theirs is on another scale. Pretending they don't because of some misguided fear of being seen as patronising doesn't change it one bit. Like I said I hope they are successful as I hope we all are so we emerge from this existential threat together stronger and more wise but I fear for a place like India based on what I saw…

All the more reason to invest, industrialize the economy?

Re: Apple begins exporting India-made iPhones to European markets

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Post by shitgoose »

dirtyid wrote: post #75
shitgoose wrote: post #53

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first iphone was announced in 2007. much less than one generation ago. india will be fine.

The Chinese supply chains that eventually build the iPhone grew from economic development zones in the 80s. India isn't starting from zero, but it's also not going to replicate that within a decade. Assuming it could - we don't know if democracies can direct capital development the same way authoritarian state capitalism could. I think India should be fine, at least in the short term, if only because Chinese manufact…

"Chinese manufacturing want to migrate to ASEAN"

curious, what do you mean by that?

"China will spin up African manufacturing"

you think that will work? also, my limited understanding is that china is after africa's natural resources, infrastructure etc, not people.

Re: Apple begins exporting India-made iPhones to European markets

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Post by harigov »

rorykoehler wrote: post #25

I have mixed feelings about the move of manufacturing to India. Whilst I would like Indians to be economically successful I can't ignore the ecological disaster that is happening in their country. It is absolutely terrifying. The air in Mumbai was unbreathable when I visited and it wasn't even ranking remotely near the top in the most polluted city air in India at the time (Delhi's was 3x as bad). Adding to this the…

I always thought that the Indian population is at a disastrous proportions but I saw this website recently that compared size of a country with another country - https://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/country-size-comparison/indi...

It seems like India is 9 times the size of Japan and 10 times the population. It's high but its not unmanageably high for a fertile piece of land with good weather for significant part of the year.

All your arguments about political system incapable of fixing problems quickly still stand though.

Re: Apple begins exporting India-made iPhones to European markets

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Post by anotherneuron »

AtomicOrbital wrote: post #32
desi_ninja wrote: post #29

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you need a lot of money to fix these problems. successful manufacturing hub will bring that money. This is a pattern. Indian booming tech sector led to a lot of improvements

Core issue in India is systemic corruption ... failure of rule of law a close second ... Until these are addressed that culture will squander it's future

While it is a big issue, and still quite prevalent, things are changing fast thanks to digitization of much of the government workflows. There is almost no corruption in departments that have been fully digitized.

It's a long way to go, but thankfully technology seems to be solving a human problem.

Re: Apple begins exporting India-made iPhones to European markets

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Post by unmole »

techie128 wrote: post #66
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Water scarcity is going to be a problem.

India has plenty of water. The problem plaguing South India, specifically Chennai, was anticipated. The central government was fixing it. However it lacked sufficient support from the state government.

>The central government was fixing it

I really don't want to start a political argument on HN but this is nonsense. How exactly was the central government fixing it?

> However it lacked sufficient support from the state

Since the state's Chief Minister Jayalalitha passed away, the state government has been in the central government's pocket. The central government could have gotten away with virtually anything. And the AIADMK is officially part of the NDA. So, there is no way I'm buying the 'no support' theory.

Re: Apple begins exporting India-made iPhones to European markets

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Post by saagarjha »

handedness wrote: post #58
vbezhenar wrote: post #17

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iPhone 6 is surprising indeed, because upcoming iOS 13 does not support it. Selling devices which will stop updating in a few months sounds very bad.

They’ll continue to receive security updates.

For iOS? Doubtful.
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