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Apple begins exporting India-made iPhones to European markets

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Re: Apple begins exporting India-made iPhones to European markets

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Post by alexashka »

thanks1banks2 wrote: post #42
AtomicOrbital wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Core issue in India is systemic corruption ... failure of rule of law a close second ... Until these are addressed that culture will squander it's future

Please. It is well documented that systemic corruption was introduced at scale by the East India Company and we carry a lot of arcane baggage from the erstwhile colonial power. We are eradicating it through education and technology to the extent possible, albeit at a slower pace than we would ideally like.

I don't think anyone is arguing why there is systemic corruption. The parent was merely pointing out that it's a problem today.

If it's of any comfort - corruption is alive and well in most other countries as well, they simply have more resources per citizen and as a result, it is better disguised.

The solution seems to be to raise the standard of living of everyone involved - corruption is not going anywhere, it seems to be a deeply rooted human trait.

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Post by azernik »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #18
techie128 wrote: post #12

While this is great news for India, it is sort of expected. Chinese mobile companies have been manufacturing in India and produce 80-90% of their phones locally. There are clear benefits for Apple here. China, as a manufacturing destination, has become less attractive due to rising wages and US-China trade war. Higher wages are good for Chinese people but not great for manufacturing. India is a cheaper destination an…

Water scarcity is going to be a problem.

As far as I know Apple's manufacturing process is not particularly water-intensive.

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xbmcuser wrote: post #55
43920 wrote: post #31

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Yeah, it's rather strange that Apple's dropping so many recent devices in iOS 13, especially since they specifically talked about improved performance on the 6 in the iOS 12 announcement [1]. They also dropped the 6th gen ipod touch, which they were still selling up until a few months ago. [1] https://singjupost.com/tim-cook-at-apple-wwdc-2018-keynote-f...

Why do you think they started updating system/apple apps outside of the iOS version releases. They can keep updating the apps and give security updates to the older version of iOS for previous gen phones.

Do they actually do this? AFAIK, almost all the system apps are bundled with the OS, and don't recieve any updates after the next version is released; the last time I remember them ever releasing a security update for an old version was the certificate validation issue a few years ago.

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Post by techie128 »

perfopt wrote: post #50
techie128 wrote: post #13

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I believe India has had a better track record than China as far as IP is concerned. The only concern I would have is India's patent laws are different from the US. Evergreening of drugs has been repeatedly rejected.

"Evergreening of drugs has been repeatedly rejected" Why is this a concern?

I was citing this as an example of India’s legal system diverging from US.

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Post by techie128 »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #18
techie128 wrote: post #12

While this is great news for India, it is sort of expected. Chinese mobile companies have been manufacturing in India and produce 80-90% of their phones locally. There are clear benefits for Apple here. China, as a manufacturing destination, has become less attractive due to rising wages and US-China trade war. Higher wages are good for Chinese people but not great for manufacturing. India is a cheaper destination an…

Water scarcity is going to be a problem.

India has plenty of water. The problem plaguing South India, specifically Chennai, was anticipated. The central government was fixing it. However it lacked sufficient support from the state government.

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Post by glasshead969 »

rorykoehler wrote: post #25

I have mixed feelings about the move of manufacturing to India. Whilst I would like Indians to be economically successful I can't ignore the ecological disaster that is happening in their country. It is absolutely terrifying. The air in Mumbai was unbreathable when I visited and it wasn't even ranking remotely near the top in the most polluted city air in India at the time (Delhi's was 3x as bad). Adding to this the…

Democratic process is slow but i am optimistic that these problems will be solved as the country grows richer. It’s chaotic but there is progress in this madness however slow.

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Post by rorykoehler »

mindfulplay wrote: post #54
solarkraft wrote: post #43

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This does not make climate change less of an issue. We're at an important turning point and the developed nations just can't stop it alone. Of course they should be doing way, way more and support ways of cleaner development financially.

Every single one of these new fangled issues was not an issue thirty years ago in the US. So... What makes the West the arbiter of such issues for other countries?

This isn't about east and west it's about today and the past. In fact if you look at the air pollution levels in New York and Chicago in the 70s they were very high and something was done about them. Currently developed nations had the advantage of being able to externalise the environmental cost of pollution without it affecting them as much immediately during development. Developing nations today don't have that luxury. Time is running out.

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Post by demodifier »

rubyn00bie wrote: post #7
new299 wrote: post #2

I’d be curious to know which parts of the manufacturing process are carried out in India. I assume it includes “final assembly”. But does all CNC work, PCB assembly happen in India? PCB assembly in particular, seems unlikely? The supply chains are all in China, and it’s a largely automated procsss.

It's been hard for me to find a definitive number [1], and what that actually means, but it looks like to labeled something as "made in India" companies are required to have 30% of the final product locally sourced. [1] https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/tech-news-techn... I linked this article because the bit at the bottom: > According to the foreign direct investment rules [...] “sourcing of 30 per cent o…

This particular requirement is tied to operating what's called a single-brand retail outlet in India. That would be Apple-owned Apple Stores. It is not clear to me if this is a requirement for foreign manufacturers who are manufacturing/assembling products in India and then exporting them.
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