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You could just use an USB device for higher throughput. The Sandisk Extreme Go, for example, is basically a small SSD in a USB drive form-factor.
If I’m reading it right, don’t you give up USB to get this PCIe access?
PCI Express on the Raspberry Pi 4
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#63Why not, but I will wait for a classic ATX ARM motherboard instead. It should happen this year.
Is Mini-ITX for $550 acceptable? https://www.solid-run.com/nxp-lx2160a-family/honeycomb-works... 16 core A72 CPU, up to 64GB RAM, PICe x8, 10GbE SFP+ ports and 1GbE RJ45, SATA. It's early access hardware, so it may have some pain points. Normal units will be available from the end of the year for $750. If I would have time and money right now, that's what I would buy.
I hope the PCIe works fine. And I hope the firmware will be FOSS like on their MACCHIATObin.
One thing they revealed is that the chip is overclockable (including memory), which is awesome. IIRC they got 2.5ish GHz core clock working. Would be amazing if it does like 3GHz with a voltage boost. (I don't expect software voltage control… but there's always hard mods :D)
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You could just use an USB device for higher throughput. The Sandisk Extreme Go, for example, is basically a small SSD in a USB drive form-factor.
If I’m reading it right, don’t you give up USB to get this PCIe access?
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#66That's really cool. I'm curious, would it be possible to use a modern GPU (running at 1x) on an ARM based board? Would the open source drivers that are part of the Kernel work out the box on ARM?
NVIDIA drivers might even work too Linux 32-bit ARM drivers https://www.nvidia.co.uk/Download/driverResults.aspx/137468/...
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#67Nice work! Would this be compatible with an M.2 to PCIe adaptor? [1] Being able to attach an Intel 660P and get 2 TB of fast SSD storage on a Raspberry Pi would be sweet. [1] https://www.amazon.com/EZDIY-FAB-Express-Adapter-Support-221...
Technically yes, but it's only a PCIe 1x Gen2 slot, so only 500MB/s of bandwidth (4x Gen3 is ~4GB/s). You'd be better off with a USB 3.0 to M.2 adapter.
I'd like to see benchmarks, but my guess is single-thread random 4k read performance will more than double via PCI Express rather than the USB.
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Exactly, the PCIe reference clock is "only" 100MHz. USB 2.0 runs at 480MHz and motherboards have used 0.1" headers for them since the beginning.
While the ref clock is only 100MHz the data rate of PCI Express is much higher, it's a serial bus pushing multiple gigabits a second https://electronics.stackexchange.com/a/259002
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Hack’s creator here - it’s on my list of things to try. GPUs are notoriously hard to get to work on non-intel, having tried to get a few up on Alpha and Itaniums in the past. VideoBIOS expects to run and expects a well behaving Intel CPU to do the power-up. That said X can sometimes emulate these quite well. On ARM we’d also run into alignment issues and likely other quirks - but in principle...
VBIOS is often not necessary for running a GPU in the OS. The amdgpu driver can POST a GPU by itself just fine. Still… X86EmulatorPkg allows running an amd64 VBIOS in UEFI on an aarch64 machine :) AFAIK the bigger problem on embedded boards is half assed Synopsys Designware host controllers. I have a Radeon running on my Marvell MACCHIATObin, on FreeBSD even. But from what I've heard the Rockchip RK3399 has a worse v…
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VBIOS is often not necessary for running a GPU in the OS. The amdgpu driver can POST a GPU by itself just fine. Still… X86EmulatorPkg allows running an amd64 VBIOS in UEFI on an aarch64 machine :) AFAIK the bigger problem on embedded boards is half assed Synopsys Designware host controllers. I have a Radeon running on my Marvell MACCHIATObin, on FreeBSD even. But from what I've heard the Rockchip RK3399 has a worse v…
Could you clarify to me/give a short definition of BAR space? For obvious reasons it's a bit hard to search for :)
(See for yourself in your machine: run "lspci -v", the lines starting with "Memory at ..." or "I/O ports at ..." are the BARs.)