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What about airdropping across the river to Shenzhen? For that matter, what about setting up Gotennas for some communication?
No need. Shenzhen is probably the most VPN'ed city in China. Most of companies/universities have VPN connection(like the one i am using now...)
Um, Hong Kong is OUTSIDE the Chinese firewall (for now) More likely they are doing this to preserve anonymity
You cross the border and, to your surprise, see 250k+ people protesting about freedom. You search Baidu for HK protests as that's your go-to search engine and all you know. What do you think you'll find...?
This reminds me of people who say that we can free North Koreans by (physically) airdropping tapes and books on Pyongyang - surely the only reason they support their government is because they're heavily censored, once they see the truth they'll rise up in arms! It's a narrative that's somewhat condescending. It makes it seem like all these people are just being held hostage by their governments. The reality is that…
Most protesters never try to investigate the real thoughts of ordinary mainland people, who are just regarded as a stereotype of ignorance, impoliteness, nouveau riche, and pathetically waiting to be enlightened. Protesters know mainland people as little as, if not less than, ordinary mainland people know them. This is not a big deal in daily life, but could severely diminish the effect of the propaganda towards main…
More importantly, it quietly dismisses the vast moral chasm between the CCP's propaganda and that of the protesters. One aims to restrict information (and spread misinformation) to advance the control of a state over its people, while the other aims to expose that restricted information to protect civil liberties.
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Does it actually work from China? Their VPN blocking has gotten really good lately.
Essentially no. As yorwba points out in a sibling post the GFW is wise to the protocols being used. Algo doesn't work either. Or more accurately they don't work for long. The GFW slowly degrades the connection over the course of some minutes, making it unusable after a while. This then resets every day or so. After a series of days or weeks the IP address associated with the server is completely blocked. The situatio…
1. Which has an alternative open source client – http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/
Worth mentioning in case anyone in HongKong or China needs it: Streisand can help you set up a VPN to avoid censoring[1] https://github.com/StreisandEffect/streisand
I've always wondered how dangerous it would be using those services in China, wouldn't the secret police come knocking if someone was found using them?
Curious if China will demand that feature be removed from the Chinese version of iOS now.
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Most protesters never try to investigate the real thoughts of ordinary mainland people, who are just regarded as a stereotype of ignorance, impoliteness, nouveau riche, and pathetically waiting to be enlightened. Protesters know mainland people as little as, if not less than, ordinary mainland people know them. This is not a big deal in daily life, but could severely diminish the effect of the propaganda towards main…
This comment is based on the peculiar notions that 1) it is possible to intimately understand the thoughts of over a billion people and 2) this understanding is necessary for propaganda to achieve its effect. More importantly, it quietly dismisses the vast moral chasm between the CCP's propaganda and that of the protesters. One aims to restrict information (and spread misinformation) to advance the control of a state…
Information freedom is politically correct, but that doesn't mean tactics or investigation isn't important before conveying information to certain group of people to achieve a political goal practically.
Btw, CCP puts great stress on these two peculiar notions. Propaganda appears far more than restriction and misinformation.
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Essentially no. As yorwba points out in a sibling post the GFW is wise to the protocols being used. Algo doesn't work either. Or more accurately they don't work for long. The GFW slowly degrades the connection over the course of some minutes, making it unusable after a while. This then resets every day or so. After a series of days or weeks the IP address associated with the server is completely blocked. The situatio…
Curious. I have a colleague who works from China a couple times a year and VPNs in to work (a well known US company) using Cisco AnyConnect[1] and tells me he's never had any trouble. 1. Which has an alternative open source client – http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/
One of the things I've wondered about, and I hope people more informed than me will forgive my ignorance, is whether it's possible to implement a VPN protocol that looks like ordinary HTTPS traffic. I know very little about the specific mechanics of network protocols so the very premise might be nonsensical but I would appreciate an explanation of why this might or might not be possible.