I will never ever buy a MacBook Pro if they don't get rid of the TouchBar. The sheer arrogance of Apple to think they know better than their customers infuriates me. I only use a 2018 MacBook Pro because work supplied it, and because my 2015 MacBook battery was dying and the only option the IT department gave me was to upgrade to the 2018 model. I may simply go back to Windows at home if that's the case, and will use…
Apple kills the non-Touch Bar MacBook Pro
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Nope, a lot of people think it’s obsolete because of the Macbook Air. Larger screen, similar thickness, and a more powerful processor. They would still think so even if the 12” Macbook had an upgrade.
Not everyone thinks that a larger screen is an upgrade.
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F8 is right next to F9, which is super important for loading autosaves in Bethesda Softworks' games, so thats a big affirmative over here.
The main question was can you hit F8 without looking? Assuming your point was you can because you've become familiar with hitting F9 on a keyboard from your experience with Bethesda games, a better question would be: can you hit the F8 key without looking on a MacBook Pro (without Touch Bar), the laptop in question with an OS that doesn't play Bethesda games?
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Quoting the Emacs web site: "To improve the use of proprietary systems is a misguided goal. Our aim, rather, is to eliminate them. We include support for some proprietary systems in GNU Emacs in the hope that running Emacs on them will give users a taste of freedom and thus lead them to free themselves."
Not sure what point you're trying to make, but the person I contacted maintains a mac-specific port of emacs which adds nice features that GNU emacs lacks and won't add because of politics. So I'm not concerned about GNU zealotry and how it relates to the touchbar.
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#356Is the baseline MacBook Air sufficient for a CS major? I don’t want to spend extra for the pro.
Speaking from my past experience, any computer would suffice. But if you want to run decent IDE and don't want to wait for minutes for compilation (for some database and system classes), you might want to buy a laptop with decent CPU.(gen 7/8 i5 and above should suffice). Buying apple product is already "spending extra".
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#357I honestly don’t understand how an infinitely and easy customisable high-resolution million-colour second display, supporting multi-touch gestures, could be called useless by the majority of commenters on the site called Hacker News.
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#358It's true, the touch bar is annoying, and I am a vi user so escape is critical. But it's not really any more annoying than adjusting between apple keyboards and PC keyboards: a bit of muscle memory. I just wish you could disable the whole thing entirely, at least the lights, while keeping the escape key. Haven't figured out right click on the touchpad yet, it's currently quite irritating. The press-to-drag brightness is kinda cool, and the fingerprint lock is also cute. The Mac is about 1/2 the weight of the Dell, although the Dell was last-year's model on sale 1.5 years ago so that's to be expected. My back will thank me on business trips. USB-C is the biggest physical adjustment, and I'm all for it. Yet to select an appropriate external keyboard (might buy Apple) or HDMI adaptor (won't buy Apple), happy to take recommendations.
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Maybe it depends on how you type and rest your hand over the keyboard. For me I've had a macbook pro with touch bar for the last 6+ months and it hasn't gotten better at all. But in all honesty it's not just the touch bar, it's also the extra sensitive touchpad. For example you may notice extra spaces int his message or spaces in the middle of the words, that because of the touch pad, I think (I can't even be sure of…
I also had a lot of trouble with my work-supplied 2017 MBP. I found the touchbar completely useless and never got used to it. It would randomly experience crashes or lags, a problem I never had with the old function keys when I changed the brightness, altered the keyboard backlight, or modified the volume. Even worse, the keys seemed to be laid out in a way that my touch typing couldn't adapt to -- every time I worke…
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#360I am a developer. The Touch Bar is useless to me. I remapped Caps lock to Esc expecting to be annoyed, but still hit Esc nonetheless because it works. And I deftly adjust volume using the Touch Bar slider using press-and-slide (not tap then pick-and-slide), relying on the += key for tactile positioning (but the position itself is largely muscle memory by now) I am also a musician. The Touch Bar is fantastic to adjust…
Unless I’m missing something I can’t think of anything the touchbar could do better for me. (just my 2c anecdote)