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BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
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Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#12> It also prevents the user from making a wrong decision on a browser dialog which might permanently lock them out of launching meetings.
> This allows us to offer a new installation or launch the existing app based on the user's machine.
These all sound like problems that can be solved by fixing the interface itself and by polling for a desktop client connection.
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow that is really damning, trashing user security in trade to remove a single click that makes it clear as to what is happening. This totally breaks Apple's Developer Terms right?
How is it trashing user security?
By running a web server with the ability to circumvent installation? It could almost be considered a backdoor
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#14Have these video conferencing services never heard about External Protocol Requests in browsers? It's a much less hacky, and much more secure method to pull off this same feature-set.
> Have these video conferencing services never heard about External Protocol Requests in browsers?
Have you tried using them?
Then you would know they don’t do that for a good reason. I answered a similar question in the zoom thread:
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#15One of the advertised "features": > Launch the BlueJeans desktop application into a meeting without prompting the user with confusing browser dialogs. This allows meetings to launch quickly on one click without requiring any additional user interaction. It also prevents the user from making a wrong decision on a browser dialog which might permanently lock them out of launching meetings.
join.me seems to have solved this problem effortlessly, and taking a gander at procs, I only see a client running. The BlueJeans rationale here isn't passing my anecdotal sniff-test...
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Zoom responded to this point [1]: > This is a workaround to a change introduced in Safari 12 that requires a user to confirm that they want to start the Zoom client prior to joining every meeting. The local web server enables users to avoid this extra click before joining every meeting. We feel that this is a legitimate solution to a poor user experience problem, enabling our users to have faster, one-click-to-join m…
They were probably also against Window's UAC popups.
Everyone I knew was against UAC popups, including security professionals.
They were likened to California Prop 65 warnings: so prolific as to be ignored, and arguably causing more harm than good, because just as apparently since EVERYTHING causes cancer one can't make decisions about avoiding things that actually do, so to does EVERYTHING trigger a UAC popup and so who gives a fuck, one more thing to quickly ignore and click through.
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#17Why is this news?
A lot of desktop applications do this. The Spotify client used to do it to enable play/pause controls from any webpage. Dropbox also definitely used the same method for single sign on, maybe still does, I don't use it anymore.
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#18Unrelated note:
>"Your browser isn't supported
This browser won't play nicely with some features on this site. For the best experience, update your browser to the latest version, or switch to another browser."
What on earth is that supposed to mean? Update to what browser? (Using Firefox on Android, latest version)
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#19Found the BlueJeans server listening on :18171
To test if the BlueJeans server is running:
lsof -i :18171Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#20One of the advertised "features": > Launch the BlueJeans desktop application into a meeting without prompting the user with confusing browser dialogs. This allows meetings to launch quickly on one click without requiring any additional user interaction. It also prevents the user from making a wrong decision on a browser dialog which might permanently lock them out of launching meetings.
join.me seems to have solved this problem effortlessly, and taking a gander at procs, I only see a client running. The BlueJeans rationale here isn't passing my anecdotal sniff-test...
Only problem I've found with join.me is performance. My experience may not be common, but there is so much stuttering with join.me that it's unusable... And I've tried it multiple times on different days with different people.