BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
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BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
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Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#2One of the advertised "features":
> Launch the BlueJeans desktop application into a meeting without prompting the user with confusing browser dialogs. This allows meetings to launch quickly on one click without requiring any additional user interaction. It also prevents the user from making a wrong decision on a browser dialog which might permanently lock them out of launching meetings.
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#3To remove the BlueJeans daemon, run:
launchctl remove com.bluejeansnet.BlueJeansHelper rm ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.bluejeansnet.BlueJeansHelper.plist
Then delete the app from /Applications
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#4Have these video conferencing services never heard about External Protocol Requests in browsers? It's a much less hacky, and much more secure method to pull off this same feature-set.
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#5Have these video conferencing services never heard about External Protocol Requests in browsers? It's a much less hacky, and much more secure method to pull off this same feature-set.
Zoom responded to this point [1]:
> This is a workaround to a change introduced in Safari 12 that requires a user to confirm that they want to start the Zoom client prior to joining every meeting. The local web server enables users to avoid this extra click before joining every meeting. We feel that this is a legitimate solution to a poor user experience problem, enabling our users to have faster, one-click-to-join meetings. We are not alone among video conferencing providers in implementing this solution.
Presumably they're both doing the janky web server solution for the same reason. Either way, I'm not sold, that browser behavior exists for for a reason.
[1]: https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2019/07/08/response-to-video-...
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#6Have these video conferencing services never heard about External Protocol Requests in browsers? It's a much less hacky, and much more secure method to pull off this same feature-set.
Zoom responded to this point [1]: > This is a workaround to a change introduced in Safari 12 that requires a user to confirm that they want to start the Zoom client prior to joining every meeting. The local web server enables users to avoid this extra click before joining every meeting. We feel that this is a legitimate solution to a poor user experience problem, enabling our users to have faster, one-click-to-join m…
They were probably also against Window's UAC popups.
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#7Have these video conferencing services never heard about External Protocol Requests in browsers? It's a much less hacky, and much more secure method to pull off this same feature-set.
Zoom responded to this point [1]: > This is a workaround to a change introduced in Safari 12 that requires a user to confirm that they want to start the Zoom client prior to joining every meeting. The local web server enables users to avoid this extra click before joining every meeting. We feel that this is a legitimate solution to a poor user experience problem, enabling our users to have faster, one-click-to-join m…
Wow that is really damning, trashing user security in trade to remove a single click that makes it clear as to what is happening.
This totally breaks Apple's Developer Terms right?
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#8Have these video conferencing services never heard about External Protocol Requests in browsers? It's a much less hacky, and much more secure method to pull off this same feature-set.
Zoom responded to this point [1]: > This is a workaround to a change introduced in Safari 12 that requires a user to confirm that they want to start the Zoom client prior to joining every meeting. The local web server enables users to avoid this extra click before joining every meeting. We feel that this is a legitimate solution to a poor user experience problem, enabling our users to have faster, one-click-to-join m…
Move fast, break security
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Zoom responded to this point [1]: > This is a workaround to a change introduced in Safari 12 that requires a user to confirm that they want to start the Zoom client prior to joining every meeting. The local web server enables users to avoid this extra click before joining every meeting. We feel that this is a legitimate solution to a poor user experience problem, enabling our users to have faster, one-click-to-join m…
Wow that is really damning, trashing user security in trade to remove a single click that makes it clear as to what is happening. This totally breaks Apple's Developer Terms right?
How is it trashing user security?
Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Zoom responded to this point [1]: > This is a workaround to a change introduced in Safari 12 that requires a user to confirm that they want to start the Zoom client prior to joining every meeting. The local web server enables users to avoid this extra click before joining every meeting. We feel that this is a legitimate solution to a poor user experience problem, enabling our users to have faster, one-click-to-join m…
Wow that is really damning, trashing user security in trade to remove a single click that makes it clear as to what is happening. This totally breaks Apple's Developer Terms right?
There are no “developer terms” that developers have to abide by for the Mac.