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Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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Post by mayankkaizen »

I deleted FB 4 years back and at that time I had around 1000 'friends' on FB. Needless to say I didn't miss a thing and life has been only better.

But there was one subtle interesting thing I noticed that nobody missed me on FB. Nobody was like, "wait, where did that guy disappear".

The people who mattered were always around me and are still around me.

Only after deleting FB I realized what a cancer FB was. I hear it has become even more cancerous.

The only thing I seriously want to give up is this Whatsapp app, especially because it is now FB product. Otherwise, the way I use Whatsapp, it doesn't pose much problem.

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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Post by BozeWolf »

s3cur3 wrote: post #81

Question for people who have nuked Facebook: what do you do about a job that needs you to have Facebook for, e.g., API keys or group moderation? Did you just create a new, “friend-less” account and transfer the credentials over to it?

Got a fake account for that “benny van gisteren”. Funny to translate in dutch. It is a saying for “i am not a fool”). Did not use it for years now. Most companies have a specific account which can be used. Also not into building that social crap.

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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Post by CodeCube »

jadbox wrote: post #66
dbingham wrote: post #8

The thing that holds me to Facebook is that it's become the town square for my local community. It's where people go to discuss the community's political challenges. So many important dialogs about local issues happen on Facebook, and it's the only real way to be a part of those conversations. Things like zoning, planning, city and county budgeting, ordinances, and so on. If I leave, not only do I lose the ability to…

>The thing that holds me to Facebook is that it's become the town square Yep, but most social platforms are not really tuned to being a town square, and instead are optimized for feeds and stirring emotions. They often rewarding behavior that's counterproductive to finding common ground. We need platforms like DinnerTable.chat [1] that is built around the idea of bringing people together across the spectrum and local…

I'm not disagreeing with you (I've never used this service you linked) ... but what becomes "the town square" has nothing to do with how optimized or tuned it is for that purpose. People are gonna do what people are gonna do, and if you want to be involved with certain people, you gotta go where they are.

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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Post by spurmboy »

jadbox wrote: post #66
dbingham wrote: post #8

The thing that holds me to Facebook is that it's become the town square for my local community. It's where people go to discuss the community's political challenges. So many important dialogs about local issues happen on Facebook, and it's the only real way to be a part of those conversations. Things like zoning, planning, city and county budgeting, ordinances, and so on. If I leave, not only do I lose the ability to…

>The thing that holds me to Facebook is that it's become the town square Yep, but most social platforms are not really tuned to being a town square, and instead are optimized for feeds and stirring emotions. They often rewarding behavior that's counterproductive to finding common ground. We need platforms like DinnerTable.chat [1] that is built around the idea of bringing people together across the spectrum and local…

I say this with respect and for your benefit: this is the most cringe inducing product description I’ve ever read.

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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Post by basch »

jadbox wrote: post #66
dbingham wrote: post #8

The thing that holds me to Facebook is that it's become the town square for my local community. It's where people go to discuss the community's political challenges. So many important dialogs about local issues happen on Facebook, and it's the only real way to be a part of those conversations. Things like zoning, planning, city and county budgeting, ordinances, and so on. If I leave, not only do I lose the ability to…

>The thing that holds me to Facebook is that it's become the town square Yep, but most social platforms are not really tuned to being a town square, and instead are optimized for feeds and stirring emotions. They often rewarding behavior that's counterproductive to finding common ground. We need platforms like DinnerTable.chat [1] that is built around the idea of bringing people together across the spectrum and local…

that doesnt appear to serve the same function.

when I think of a local facebook group for a neighborhood its a bunch of people helping each other or complaining. stuff like "we're those gunshots, road xxx is closed so is taco bell, my cat is missing, hey this event is happening this weekend, im having trouble making rent this month." it works, because everyone is on it. network effect + a lack of baked in structure.

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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Post by dpcan »

I recently deleted Reddit from my life. That was huge. I can turn off Twitter and would never know it was gone. But FB won't be that easy.

It's important to me for a number of reasons:

- Communities use it to communicate with their groups. I'm in business owner groups, collectives, local theater group, and some gaming/social groups that aren't as active.

- For many of these groups, FB is the ONLY way I'll get info about anything that is going on with them. And honestly, I don't mind. It works well.

- Businesses use it to send deals to their customers, notify them of events, post pictures, etc.

- I manage business Facebook pages as part of my business, so I can't get rid of my personal account.

- I also use the Marketplace a lot to sell off stuff from my house and it works brilliantly.

HOWEVER - I have technically stopped "using" Facebook.

For the last 3 years now, I've made my profile totally private. I haven't posted photos or shared stupid things. I un-followed (but stayed friends with) EVERYONE except my wife and parents and a close friend.

My news feed is empty except for posts from the groups I'm a part of and stuff from close family members.

And there's an added benefit - when I DO post something now, on a rare occasion, people actually take notice.

If everyone would only post when it's really important, the system would be useful and interesting. Otherwise, it's full of garbage.

Facebook is not all bad, but certain people ruin it with their constant garbage posting, and that's too bad.

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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Post by eznoonze »

cols wrote: post #52

I just passed my two year anniversary with no FB, Twitter, Instagram, or Snapchat and I've never been happier. I convinced my wife to cut the cord about a year ago and she completely agrees. For me it was an addiction. I was compulsively checking FB many times an hour to stay caught up with people. This was after culling my friends list multiple times. Turns out, life goes on just fine without a constant water hose o…

Instead of cutting off those social media, we should post as many fake stuff as possible to mess around their big data, AI/machine learning algorithms.

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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Post by rolltiide »

Blackstone4 wrote: post #89
cols wrote: post #52

I just passed my two year anniversary with no FB, Twitter, Instagram, or Snapchat and I've never been happier. I convinced my wife to cut the cord about a year ago and she completely agrees. For me it was an addiction. I was compulsively checking FB many times an hour to stay caught up with people. This was after culling my friends list multiple times. Turns out, life goes on just fine without a constant water hose o…

I would do the same but I have a board games club which is organized via Facebook....and I have one or two friends who still organize events through FB. Otherwise I would certainly shut my account. I do not post photos or interact with others except occasionally through messenger. I have started unfollowing everyone although I do enjoy Humans of NYC.

Have you tried just asking people to move a group chat off of fb?

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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Post by spurmboy »

rococode wrote: post #10

To me, Facebook provides enough value that I don't feel the benefits of deleting it outweigh the benefits of keeping it. Without it, I have no connection at all to some of my old friends. While I don't necessarily need to be connected to them, it's nice to see how people are doing every once in a while. LinkedIn fulfills this desire in some ways, but I don't typically connect with my "outside-of-work" friends on Link…

You want to have a vague idea of other peoples lives, people who don’t matter to you in any real way, and you aren’t even getting the real status, just the image they want to project through the social media distortion lens. So you decide to sacrifice your privacy and mental health for it. Makes sense.
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