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Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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I just passed my two year anniversary with no FB, Twitter, Instagram, or Snapchat and I've never been happier. I convinced my wife to cut the cord about a year ago and she completely agrees. For me it was an addiction. I was compulsively checking FB many times an hour to stay caught up with people. This was after culling my friends list multiple times. Turns out, life goes on just fine without a constant water hose o…

I personally never got on; life is fine without. Do yourself a favor and just get rid of it all. You can communicate personally with people fine over other methods; the idea of "broadcasting" your thoughts is better accomplished by a blog (where you have freedom to express your thoughts rather than cramming them into small snippets); the idea of sharing every moment of your life (e.g. what you had for breakfast, accompanied by a photo) is unnecessary and psychologically unhealthy.

One notable exception I'm considering making: a read-only twitter account to follow security professionals. I have seen most people with lists of recommended security pros to follow, and I figure it could serve as a sort of free, meta-bulletin for security. Haven't done it yet, but considering.

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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Congratulations! It's soon to be my first anniversary sans FaBIGWA. (only exception was the Go I recently sold and the Quest I might get in near future)

Searching FaBIGWA just sends me to this thread, and I'm struggling to decipher what is in there. Looks like Facebook... And a whole lot of other stuff I can't glean.

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Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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The thing that holds me to Facebook is that it's become the town square for my local community. It's where people go to discuss the community's political challenges. So many important dialogs about local issues happen on Facebook, and it's the only real way to be a part of those conversations. Things like zoning, planning, city and county budgeting, ordinances, and so on. If I leave, not only do I lose the ability to…

Facebook serves similar functions in my area, and is the best way you can find out if paving/waterline work/etc are causing street closures, or if wrecks or similar are causing a closure.

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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The thing that holds me to Facebook is that it's become the town square for my local community. It's where people go to discuss the community's political challenges. So many important dialogs about local issues happen on Facebook, and it's the only real way to be a part of those conversations. Things like zoning, planning, city and county budgeting, ordinances, and so on. If I leave, not only do I lose the ability to…

What if our very own public Libraries had the ability to host local communities' dialogs etc. One of the things that it would protect is "freedom" of speech and it would be a better platform for communities to voice their concerns etc, without the fear of having their data mined or even have their voices or issues removed, because it was offensive. Of course it would not be a perfect platform, but as an American, we…

I'm not sure why you're being downvoted - but I really like the idea of public libraries hosting community social networks. Librarians have traditionally been fiercely privacy conscious and they could provide an archived platform for local government as well.

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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Nextdoor comes to mind, but not necessarily a local online town square which I agree with your comment that a source like that is invaluable to keep up with local issues.

I've seen too many stories of people discovering their neighbors are racist/classist assholes on Nextdoor to want to participate. Leave me a few illusions about the inherent goodness of people.

(SF Bay Area here) I personally enjoy watching almost every ND convo degrade into which person is the biggest victim (race, class, and so on). Bothered me at first, but now it is sheer entertainment

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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Nextdoor comes to mind, but not necessarily a local online town square which I agree with your comment that a source like that is invaluable to keep up with local issues.

I've seen too many stories of people discovering their neighbors are racist/classist assholes on Nextdoor to want to participate. Leave me a few illusions about the inherent goodness of people.

Cannot possibly be worse than the way people act on Facebook.

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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> While I don't necessarily need to be connected to them, it's nice to see how people are doing every once in a while. Why do you choose not to call them and ask them how they are doing? I must admit, I do not really understand this "seeing how they are doing" statement, it confuses me as to why someone would spend time on facebook to see how another one is doing, but would not make the call to ask. Maybe I'm misread…

Actually just wrote an edit to address this but I'll repeat here - I think it's a generational thing. It's not really about keeping up with specific people - when I want to do that, I just message them like you say (side note - in my experience people in my age group don't tend to have many people's phone numbers). Basically, I grew up using Facebook, which meant I've always had these constant life updates from peopl…

> It feels a bit like a mild addiction since it's not totally rational to care about these tiny updates in the lives of people I'm unlikely to ever meet again

You might be interested to read an article⁰ where Sean Parker stated that they consciously designed Facebook to be addictive, by exploiting "dopamine-driven feedback loops".

⓪ - https://www.axios.com/sean-parker-facebook-was-designed-to-e...

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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post #52

I just passed my two year anniversary with no FB, Twitter, Instagram, or Snapchat and I've never been happier. I convinced my wife to cut the cord about a year ago and she completely agrees. For me it was an addiction. I was compulsively checking FB many times an hour to stay caught up with people. This was after culling my friends list multiple times. Turns out, life goes on just fine without a constant water hose o…

I would do the same but I have a board games club which is organized via Facebook....and I have one or two friends who still organize events through FB. Otherwise I would certainly shut my account.

I do not post photos or interact with others except occasionally through messenger. I have started unfollowing everyone although I do enjoy Humans of NYC.

Re: Steve Wozniak Says People Should Get Off Facebook Permanently

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post #52

I just passed my two year anniversary with no FB, Twitter, Instagram, or Snapchat and I've never been happier. I convinced my wife to cut the cord about a year ago and she completely agrees. For me it was an addiction. I was compulsively checking FB many times an hour to stay caught up with people. This was after culling my friends list multiple times. Turns out, life goes on just fine without a constant water hose o…

You can use Facebook messenger without having a Facebook account.
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