Is there any plan by Wayland to incorporate ssh forwarding? Last I heard it wasn't in the cards, and I think that feature is useful enough; it's probably the only feature I really would miss.
The death watch for the X Window System has probably started
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#22Omae wa mou shindeiru. If the future of X is uncertain, then X is already dead. No one wants to base their OS on something without a clear maintenance and development roadmap.
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#23Is there any plan by Wayland to incorporate ssh forwarding? Last I heard it wasn't in the cards, and I think that feature is useful enough; it's probably the only feature I really would miss.
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#24With this in mind, are there other projects that are at risk due to stewardship by a single corporation? How can we prevent this in the future?
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#25Are there any major x11 features that wayland lacks other than remote operation over a network? I think at one point it locked the refresh rate to 60hz, has that been changed?
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#26Is there any plan by Wayland to incorporate ssh forwarding? Last I heard it wasn't in the cards, and I think that feature is useful enough; it's probably the only feature I really would miss.
Every time I've tried it, it was plagued with problems (fonts, HiDPI issues, different environments) and horrible performance. I mostly had to resort back to NX, which is okish, but not better at all than Windows' RDP or better VNC solutions. So what's the big draw here?
Re: The death watch for the X Window System has probably started
#27Omae wa mou shindeiru. If the future of X is uncertain, then X is already dead. No one wants to base their OS on something without a clear maintenance and development roadmap.
Except for those who pave the way. Not all OSes are products.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Universal keybinding and screen capture of any kind. Kind of show stoppers for people who actually use their window manager for managing windows.
I use screen capture and remote operation every day. Are those features planned?
Ask yourself, "why do all of the major GUI systems - in daily use by billions of people, evolved over the past 40 years - opt to offer remote operation only as an optional add-on?"
Maintainers, beware of the tail wagging the dog!
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#29Sway has become one of my favorite pieces of software. The only issue is that Sway or Wayland seems to have trouble implementing an easy to use redshift/nightlight. Based on my research into eye strain and talking to my optometrist I keep redshift on 24/7 and I can’t go back.
redshift -m drm -PO 3000
sway
Re: The death watch for the X Window System has probably started
#30Are there any major x11 features that wayland lacks other than remote operation over a network? I think at one point it locked the refresh rate to 60hz, has that been changed?
Where do we even begin? Windows managers? Consistent window decorations? Thousands of applications? Consistent performance? Redshift? Global keybindings?
Sway/wlroots.
> Consistent window decorations?
This is up to individual compositors and toolkits.
> Thousands of applications
Like what? Any that rely on X specific behaviour run via XWayland.
> Consistent performance
Wayland in theory should be faster than X, but again, this depends on compositor.
> Redshift
Gnome has night-light on Wayland already. KDE I think just added it.
> Global keybindings
There are proposals to allow better negotiation of key bindings. But I think it's a bonus that applications can't listen into keys when they're not in focus.