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Is Office 365 any better - or am I stuck running my own mail server if I really want privacy?

I work for Microsoft but not on any O365, Outlook.com, or advertising team.

Outlook.com (free public service) does not scan emails for ads - I filed a support ticket for asking about this year's ago.

Additionally, if you pay for O365 (Home or Personal, maybe just Home?) and use the same Microsoft account for email (via Outlook.com) then no ads are displayed at all.

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Thanks for the input but we run on Gsuite and haven't had a single problem compared to Office 365 which locked us out repeatedly because some rep in some outsourced support center wasn't available. The reality is every provider is both good and bad, and you're unlikely to get any major support unless you're the CTO of a major corporation.

There's a big difference in moving from one provider to another (and having less problems) vs claiming that there's better support to be had with the paid version of gmail (compared to it's free offering).

I can't think of any product or service where you dont get better support after paying. Can you?

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That sounds pretty illegal over here in Europe. Or did they fix it for European users? Edit: Why am I being downvoted for asking this question?

Sounds vague... What law are you referring to? Why would it be illegal? Is that reasonable in this case? Please don't comment about the voting on comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

The parent is probably referring to GDPR.

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Is Office 365 any better - or am I stuck running my own mail server if I really want privacy?

I'm paying $48 for Microsoft Hosted Exchange with my own domain and am very happy about it. Exchange pushes to Mac, iPhone and iPad, good sync, no ads or similar shenanigans. It's just badly marketed but here it is for those who are interested: https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/exchange-online

Re: Google Gmail purchase history can't be deleted

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I’ve seen this happen as well.

There’s purchases I’ve deleted emails (and emptied the trash for) only for it to still be in the purchase list. Clicking on the purchase does not lead to the email.

Similarly, I believe the gmail search cache also has some lingering cache issues. There are emails referenced in the drop down in search that I’ve long deleted.

It is frustrating

Re: Google Gmail purchase history can't be deleted

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That sounds pretty illegal over here in Europe. Or did they fix it for European users? Edit: Why am I being downvoted for asking this question?

Sounds vague... What law are you referring to? Why would it be illegal? Is that reasonable in this case? Please don't comment about the voting on comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> What law are you referring to?

GDPR. It requires that the person whose personal data is processed must give explicit permission about what data is processed and allow the purpose for which the data is processed. And it must be possible at any time to withdraw that permission and to delete the data.

At least as far as I understand those rules, ianal.

Re: Google Gmail purchase history can't be deleted

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This sounds weird. When CNBC broke the story a month back, I'd : 1. gone around deleting every invoice from my GMail inbox 2. Noticed it wasn't getting removed after waiting for 24 hours. 3. Reached out to the reporter mentioning google might be not deleting it properly. 4. Waiting a couple more days and calling off the alarm when google did finally delete it. I wrote about it at https://captnemo.in/blog/2019/06/01/c…

I always assume there's a backup somewhere in Google or Facebook that's old as hell but has the old emails, I would assume some of these places have cold storage options for backing up legacy data, but then again, there's the time myspace wiped a bunch of old data and nobody seemed to have cared. Surprised to this day that many other sites have shut down, but MySpace keeps on kicking.

Probably, but they don't need the original emails. They've already mined it for pertinent personal data and stored the resulting, secret, proprietary information about you in a different place.

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I think it is incredibly easy now-a-days. Check out https://mailinabox.email or https://mailcow.github.io/mailcow-dockerized-docs/ ( https://mailcow.email )

Mail-in-a-box user here. It's incredibly easy to set up your own email server these days, yes, but it's practically impossible to have your emails pass the Gmail/Outlook/etc spam filters and actually arrive at your recipient's inbox.

Hmm, that's really curious to me. Once I had DMARC, DKIM, SPF set up properly, I only had an issue with my IP being on a spamhhaus blocklist.

Super easy to remove from the blocklists.

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I think it is incredibly easy now-a-days. Check out https://mailinabox.email or https://mailcow.github.io/mailcow-dockerized-docs/ ( https://mailcow.email )

What is spam filtering and deliverability like?

mailinabox doesn't really have any, but mailcow's is great. RSPAMD is really easy to use.

I am not entirely sure what you mean by delivery?

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