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VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Post by NetOpWibby »

mrunseen wrote: post #36
harshreality wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Safe? Against what? - Preventing websites from seeing your true IP? (you'll want to disable webrtc as well[1].) Mostly yes. - preventing your ISP from spying on your traffic? (allowing Amazon to spy on your traffic in exchange...) Yes. - Avoiding risk of legal threats if you engage in copyright infringement? Mostly no. They can subpoena Amazon instead of your ISP, and your lightsail/EC2 ip isn't shared. Routing throu…

I live in Turkey and I got myself Wireguard set-up with wireguard+lightsail. I can say I got same trouble as no-VPN. For example I cant view profiles on Twitter when im on VPN. btw Turkey is notorious for blocking sites, Youtube got blocked for months, Wikipedia is still blocked today..

My condolences

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Post by wrong_variable »

mrunseen wrote: post #36
harshreality wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Safe? Against what? - Preventing websites from seeing your true IP? (you'll want to disable webrtc as well[1].) Mostly yes. - preventing your ISP from spying on your traffic? (allowing Amazon to spy on your traffic in exchange...) Yes. - Avoiding risk of legal threats if you engage in copyright infringement? Mostly no. They can subpoena Amazon instead of your ISP, and your lightsail/EC2 ip isn't shared. Routing throu…

I live in Turkey and I got myself Wireguard set-up with wireguard+lightsail. I can say I got same trouble as no-VPN. For example I cant view profiles on Twitter when im on VPN. btw Turkey is notorious for blocking sites, Youtube got blocked for months, Wikipedia is still blocked today..

Which country was your exit IP ? was it the US ?

What happens if you route it through servers in Qatar, Thailand or Singapore ?

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Post by Piskvorrr »

ubercow13 wrote: post #46
tootahe45 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or those who think they can use unlimited bandwidth on 5 devices and have all of it decrypted on the other end for just $3 a month, with no string attached.

Why not? You can run your own VPS with unlimited bandwidth on Scaleway for €3/mo and run your own VPN on that, and other stuff

The issue here is that you are uniquely identified by your endpoint.

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Post by ehsankia »

INTPenis wrote: post #41

A bit misleading to me because I read products as softwares but dismissed it because I knew there weren't 97 VPN softwares on the market. This should say 97 VPN services instead. Just nitpicking but it did made me look twice. This type of development is not unusual. Web hosting companies have been buying each other up since the 90s.

I do think it's still true that the VPN market is teeming, even if a lot of the smaller services are owned by the same company. I keep seeing ads for ExpressVPN and NordVPN everywhere these days, some of these really trying to sell the idea that you can't ever browse the web without VPN. It seems like they're having a lot of success and growing very quickly these days, hence all these duplicate ones too.

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Post by andreareina »

tmh88j wrote: post #14
duxup wrote: post #2

Nearly as disturbing as the number of people who tell me they use free VPNs. It is a bit mind boggling that folks are concerned about something and use a VPN...but choose a free one...

> Nearly as disturbing as the number of people who tell me they use free VPNs. This is absolutely not an apples to apples comparison, but why is it outrageous to believe there couldn't be a free VPN that focuses on privacy when there are search engines like Duckduckgo and browsers like Firefox that are completely free and are pro-privacy? I haven't done the research, so consider it a rhetorical question.

Because DDG and Mozilla both have sources of revenue and so don't need to sell their users down the river to keep the lights on. If Cloudflare does offer a free VPN that's a good bit of marketing for their actual services. How's FreeVPNCo going to pay for its servers? What about bandwidth?

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Post by andreareina »

ubercow13 wrote: post #47
debaserab2 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what organization with that kind of credibility is offering a free vpn? If Mozilla did, it probably would get the kind of attention and focus you’re suggesting. I just don’t see a lot of companies with a similar vision as Mozilla that are successful.

Cloudflare is going to offer a free VPN

The marginal cost to Cloudflare for the extra engineering, compute, and bandwidth is lower than it would be for many other organizations, and it's good marketing for the things they actually make money on.

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Post by ubercow13 »

Piskvorrr wrote: post #55
ubercow13 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? You can run your own VPS with unlimited bandwidth on Scaleway for €3/mo and run your own VPN on that, and other stuff

The issue here is that you are uniquely identified by your endpoint.

Sure it's not equivalent as a user, buy if anything it should cost a VPN provider less not more to offer that service

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Post by GordonS »

yardstick wrote: post #19

Tinfoil hats aside, it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if the NSA and other intelligence agencies around the world operated VPN service providers as a way to spy on users.

If the Snowden affair showed anything, it's that the tinfoil hat wearers were right all along - you'd have been ridiculed if you'd suggested just about anything from the Snowden files.
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