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VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Yep plus 1000 to this. I tried doing this 4 years ago and it was a miserable experience. And rightly so to be honest. For every privacy focused nerd, there are 1000 lowlife hackers and spammers trying to use something as a bounce proxy.

Any experience with using classical VPS as a proxy? Same problem?

That's what I started out with. Pretty useless. Blocking the entire ASN is pretty easy and most won't care what is what.

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Tinfoil hats aside, it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if the NSA and other intelligence agencies around the world operated VPN service providers as a way to spy on users.

It would surprise me if they didn't.

and so 97 VPN products may fall under single digit organizations, big one being NSA!

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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A browser is just an application with some minimal services provided such as sync, extensions hosting, auto-updates. A VPN on the other hand consists of an application and usually unmetered usage of the company's bandwidth, which costs money.

Maybe "browser" was too specific. Replace that with an "organization" and that's Mozilla. They make firefox, but they're more than just an application, they're a group of applications developers that are pro privacy.

So what organization with that kind of credibility is offering a free vpn?

If Mozilla did, it probably would get the kind of attention and focus you’re suggesting. I just don’t see a lot of companies with a similar vision as Mozilla that are successful.

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Nearly as disturbing as the number of people who tell me they use free VPNs. It is a bit mind boggling that folks are concerned about something and use a VPN...but choose a free one...

Agreed. With the possible exception of Psiphon which is built by and for activists. https://www.psiphon3.com Tor is obviously another option but I don't strictly speaking categorise that as a VPN.

The intelligence community has a record of infiltrating activist orgs to direct their ideas. I wouldn't trust anything made specifically for activism unless some other valuable merit is presented.

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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How safe is it to setup a VPN (via Wireguard or something) with AWS?

Safe? Against what? - Preventing websites from seeing your true IP? (you'll want to disable webrtc as well[1].) Mostly yes. - preventing your ISP from spying on your traffic? (allowing Amazon to spy on your traffic in exchange...) Yes. - Avoiding risk of legal threats if you engage in copyright infringement? Mostly no. They can subpoena Amazon instead of your ISP, and your lightsail/EC2 ip isn't shared. Routing throu…

I live in Turkey and I got myself Wireguard set-up with wireguard+lightsail. I can say I got same trouble as no-VPN. For example I cant view profiles on Twitter when im on VPN.

btw Turkey is notorious for blocking sites, Youtube got blocked for months, Wikipedia is still blocked today..

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Tinfoil hats aside, it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if the NSA and other intelligence agencies around the world operated VPN service providers as a way to spy on users.

Going by their designs in the leaked Snowden documents, you can probably tell which ones are ran by the NSA from the bad website/app UX/UI.

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Nearly as disturbing as the number of people who tell me they use free VPNs. It is a bit mind boggling that folks are concerned about something and use a VPN...but choose a free one...

Yes, a more secure and practical alternative to "VPN services" is the Tor network, which externalizes the cost of infrastructure to volunteers and thus reduces the risk inherent with centralized control. While Tor is also not without risk, I really wish more privacy oriented services and software had decentralization as a core tenet of their design.

You trust Tor exit nodes over vpn providers?

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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i can't speak to the safety, but i think you'll find browsing with an AWS IP to be a frustrating experience. Many sites block traffic from known AWS IP ranges in an attempt to prevent scraping or abuse.

Use Google Cloud VMs. Nobody blocks Google IPs (they might even lift paywalls etc)

Google's services do not share IPs with their cloud platform. All 3 major cloud ip ranges are easy to block.
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