YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

Post by alltakendamned » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 8:30 AM UTC

torified wrote: post #165

The internet promised so much, but is being ruined by corporations and governments. I can't help but feel the ruining is accelerating. I hope the infosec community can come up with some kind of decentralized way to actually share free speech. If anyone is capable, they are. The discovery problem is an illusion. If you build it, they will come.

Post by cuillevel3 » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 8:33 AM UTC

pluma wrote: post #186

rehasu wrote: post #162

Well, well, well. Does a high tech community need Youtube as a video platform though? The famous German hacker community "chaos computer club" simply uses their own platform to begin with: https://media.ccc.de/

The benefit of YouTube isn't primarily video hosting. The benefit is discoverability and (to a certain extent) community.

Post by JoeSamoa » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 8:34 AM UTC

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #173

roenxi wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t know how he predicted so far ahead at the time, it’s humbling. As I cast my eye over the FSF's basic definition of free software [0] I can't spot much of a mystery. If a user don't have those freedoms, then someone else is in control of their software. It is inevitable that sooner or later the situation will change and the person who does have control the software is going to do disagree with what the user…

It's intriguing to witness this phenomenon live, for example with Google: first we were all in love with it, so refreshing, fast, humble when compared with Yahoo, Lycos et all. We loved their "do no evil" mantra. When they started to offer their free e-mail, we were queueing to migrate. Then the phenomenon you're describing started to happen and people are struggling to de-googlify their lives only to discover it's a…

Post by wruza » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 8:37 AM UTC

alltakendamned wrote: post #211

torified wrote: post #165

The internet promised so much, but is being ruined by corporations and governments. I can't help but feel the ruining is accelerating. I hope the infosec community can come up with some kind of decentralized way to actually share free speech. If anyone is capable, they are. The discovery problem is an illusion. If you build it, they will come.

The internet will route around this block, just like it has always routed around other obstacles. Infosec people tend to be crafty (it's a job requirement imo) and quite a lot of the greybeards were part of building the infrastructure from the beginning, so no need to despair yet.

Post by noobermin » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 8:46 AM UTC

piokoch wrote: post #201

oceanstone wrote: post #16

> Yesterday, Youtube froze Kody Kinzie's longrunning Cyber Weapons Lab channel Did his channel get unbanned? Kody's website links to this active channel with its first video uploaded in Oct 2017: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgTNupxATBfWmfehv21ym-g edit: Yep looks like the ban was a mistake ️ > In a subsequent comment, a YouTube spokesperson confirmed to The Verge that Cyber Weapons Lab’s channel was flagged by m…

It is always same story. If a problem concerns someone "well known" who is able to attract attention, than Google, Facebook, etc. are stepping back. If it were some random "amateurish" hacker channel, it would be banned and nobody would give a crap. The problem is that many valuable things started as some "amateurish" stuff put together by some clever guys in a garage.