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Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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YouTube is less and less about You.

It's like they've got too much content anyway, so why not just start banning stuff?

Ironically, they remove the videos that people watch, not the thousands of terabytes of videos with 3 clicks in the last 6 years.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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post #167

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I always think he’s mostly right, but a little too uncompromising, but then everything he says comes true. I don’t know how he predicted so far ahead at the time, it’s humbling. As a software author working at startups, am I part of the problem? I don’t understand how to make a good living without locking down the code to some extent, with few exceptions (it’s hard to found red hat)

> I don’t know how he predicted so far ahead at the time, it’s humbling. As I cast my eye over the FSF's basic definition of free software [0] I can't spot much of a mystery. If a user don't have those freedoms, then someone else is in control of their software. It is inevitable that sooner or later the situation will change and the person who does have control the software is going to do disagree with what the user…

It's intriguing to witness this phenomenon live, for example with Google: first we were all in love with it, so refreshing, fast, humble when compared with Yahoo, Lycos et all. We loved their "do no evil" mantra. When they started to offer their free e-mail, we were queueing to migrate. Then the phenomenon you're describing started to happen and people are struggling to de-googlify their lives only to discover it's already too late to do it 100%.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#174
I dont think youtube can run their business without infocsec personal. But the US community as a whole also doesnt seem to have a problem with working for for 3 letter agencies, so its not really surprising that youtube doesnt have to worry about their personal leaving. Please think about what kind of effect your work has on the wider world. Some here are likely in the privileged situation that changing the job because of your conscience is a possibility.

edit: I would add to think about the next generation of us and what example those actions sets, but i dont think i have to. Too many people here already grew up in an environment where taking jobs at 3 letter agencies is nothing out of the ordinary and the head of the NSA gets to speak at DEFCON while kids rot in jail for the same curiosity that made us who we are today.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#176

YouTube is now officially dead to me. R I P

Don't know why you're downvoted. Probably because quite a few people here work for Google. I hate this downvote/upvote system so damn much.

"Please don't make insinuations about astroturfing. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried, email us and we'll look at the data."

"Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#178

It's like banning Karate & Judo because it teaches violence. (When it actually improves personal security/safety)

Isn't this the problem of the viewers' own doing? Youtube would not give a shit until someone feels offended by it and complaints. So we can blame corportions all we want but we should also think how much of it is influenced by us. Note: above only applies to the comment about violence. Infosec thing most likely is different.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#179
This creates opportunities for niche driven video sites to show up, if they have not already.

For example "YouTube for infosec".

The web is going to go more towards specialisation as the "one place for all kinds of content of this format" model is becoming too big to handle. For various reasons, from searching, to moderation, to curation.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Sometimes I wish people had developed an expectation that commercial software should come with the source code, rather than as (only) a binary blob. Licensing terms could be the same, but people would look at you funny and feel cheated if you tried to sell them a binary blob.

This was a shift in viewpoint -- earlier in the life of computers, the hardware was seen as the really valuable part of a computer. So companies would provide the source code because that was simpler (the software was "just a toy"). But then software became the valuable component, and so businesses (as is a recurring theme in capitalism) didn't want to give away something that might be potentially profitable. And so…

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