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Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Terrible usability issues on Win7. Almost all of the menus have a problem with flickering and/or disappearing elements.

Are your graphics drivers up-to-date? edit: to add, I'm on 64-bit Win7 too -- I've been using nightlies for over a year and haven't seen anything of this sort.

It's not always safer to be up-to-date with graphics drivers.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Firefox 4 is a memory hog compared to Firefox 3.6. Worse, it leaks memory like a sieve. After a bit of browsing, it is using 350 MB with just a single tab open. Firefox 3.6 uses half that much memory on the same machine.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, so it sounds like you misunderstand the process of software development. You can't completely rewrite various subsystems for performance and fix bugs at the same time. There is more going on than just 'adding new features'. New software is bound to be unstable while it is in development. If you have a problem with this, do not download beta versions. Personally, I haven't had any issues at all with stability or…

(Since I don't particularly care about my karma at the moment, I guess I'll continue beating this dead horse :-)) And here's my snarky rejoinder: Hey look! There are bug fixes and new features in the latest beta. How did they do that? Perhaps they misunderstand the software development process! What you have described is some ideal model of the development process based on something you think should happen. It doesn'…

Honestly, I think your priorities are messed up — or at least inconsistent with your actions. You seem to just want a stable browser for watching YouTube without regard for cutting-edge technology, but for some reason are using a piece of beta software that is currently focused on other things.

As far as the final product is concerned, I'd bet that YouTube does have higher priority than WebGL. But that isn't the current focus of development.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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post #32

Firefox 4 is a memory hog compared to Firefox 3.6. Worse, it leaks memory like a sieve. After a bit of browsing, it is using 350 MB with just a single tab open. Firefox 3.6 uses half that much memory on the same machine.

I beat the 350 MB by going to the Atlas Obscura website. Firefox managed to use up 550 MB with only a single tab open. This too after a clean start. Firefox just keeps on leaking memory when the Atlas Obscura website is open.

I hate saying this but Firefox 4 is shaping to be a disaster of epic proportions. The Javascript benchmarks are all nice and good but dear Mozilla folk you people also need to write a garbage collector for your implementation of Javascript that actually collects garbage.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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post #32

Firefox 4 is a memory hog compared to Firefox 3.6. Worse, it leaks memory like a sieve. After a bit of browsing, it is using 350 MB with just a single tab open. Firefox 3.6 uses half that much memory on the same machine.

The other day, I discovered a Firefox nightly using a gig and a half of memory after some light browsing; after some investigation it turned out that had a few hundred meg allocated immediately after startup (having loaded only about:mozilla) and it allocated a few hundred more when I opened and immediately closed the bookmarks and history menus.

Turns out, in Safe Mode it was perfectly well behaved, and after hitting the 'reset all preferences to defaults' button, Firefox not only takes less memory, but is snappier too.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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post #2

Even more impressive is their HTML5, WebGL, audio and video demo linked to in the post: http://videos-cdn.mozilla.net/serv/mozhacks/flight-of-the-na...

My machine (with 102 other processes currently running) didn't break 17.5% CPU usage during the entire demo and my GPU fan never spun up. Not bad.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Even more impressive is their HTML5, WebGL, audio and video demo linked to in the post: http://videos-cdn.mozilla.net/serv/mozhacks/flight-of-the-na...

View this demo in Firefox 4, then view IE9's demo in IE9: http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Performance/Galactic/Defau... These demos really demonstrates the difference between Firefox 4 and IE9.

For those of us that can't / don't want to install IE9, can you describe the differences?

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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post #32

Firefox 4 is a memory hog compared to Firefox 3.6. Worse, it leaks memory like a sieve. After a bit of browsing, it is using 350 MB with just a single tab open. Firefox 3.6 uses half that much memory on the same machine.

It's probably this regression: http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/2010/12/21/rude-surprise-start...

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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I don't mean to be "that guy", but how is anyone seriously enthused about Firefox anymore when Chrome is on the scene?

I love and respect Firefox for showing the world there was a better way. But they are the Freud to a much more mature approach at this point.

I can't use Firefox without wanting to injure myself within five minutes. It is dead to me.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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I don't mean to be "that guy", but how is anyone seriously enthused about Firefox anymore when Chrome is on the scene? I love and respect Firefox for showing the world there was a better way. But they are the Freud to a much more mature approach at this point. I can't use Firefox without wanting to injure myself within five minutes. It is dead to me.

Chrome is a closed-source browser with a rigid failure of a UI and a sync feature that hands over all my bookmarks and history to Google. I can't even move the buttons around -- what a joke. How any privacy-conscious person can use Chrome is beyond me.
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