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Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Even more impressive is their HTML5, WebGL, audio and video demo linked to in the post: http://videos-cdn.mozilla.net/serv/mozhacks/flight-of-the-na...

View this demo in Firefox 4, then view IE9's demo in IE9: http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Performance/Galactic/Defau...

These demos really demonstrates the difference between Firefox 4 and IE9.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Beta 8 was released a week ago. Beta 9 is available now: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/lates... I tested beta 8 a few days ago, it was still twice as slow as Chrome 8 (Sunspider benchmark).

My results indicate Firefox 4 is slight faster than Chrome on that benchmark (10%). On kraken it is almost twice as fast.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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http://dotnetwizard.net/soft-apps/firefox-3-beta-4-disabling...

The correct way to do this is to install Mozilla's Add-on Compatibility Reporter. It lets you selectively disable and report those add-ons that aren't working correctly on new versions.

thanks, i've submitted reports for all of my add-ons under the new beta.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Perhaps you misunderstand the purpose of software development. There is a stable version of Firefox (version 3.6), you can download it at http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ . Mozilla is also adding new features to Firefox in an effort to enable web developers to do new things in new ways. Development and stabilization of these new features is ongoing, which is why it's restricted to a beta program in the next version. W…

This made me laugh, WTF does "purpose of software development" actually mean? That phrase is itself a misunderstanding waiting to happen. :-) Yeah... Ok, I probably deserved a bit of a snarky reply -- I missed the 32-bit requirement for silverlight in the release notes (apparently their sandboxing for 64bit is broken). Just for that oversight, I'll take my lumps. I do think, however, that you're thinking in a binary…

Okay, so it sounds like you misunderstand the process of software development.

You can't completely rewrite various subsystems for performance and fix bugs at the same time. There is more going on than just 'adding new features'. New software is bound to be unstable while it is in development. If you have a problem with this, do not download beta versions.

Personally, I haven't had any issues at all with stability or compatibility on Beta 6 or 7 (on Linux).

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Installed Firefox 4 Beta 8 on my Windows 7 32 bit machine. Went to the demo page, waited for it to load, hit the start button, and my machine immediately crashed (black screen, no hdd activity, not responsive). Rebooted, tried to load random page from my bookmarks, crashed again. Fortunately that time it didn't take my whole computer with it. Guess I'll try again in a few weeks?

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Installed Firefox 4 Beta 8 on my Windows 7 32 bit machine. Went to the demo page, waited for it to load, hit the start button, and my machine immediately crashed (black screen, no hdd activity, not responsive). Rebooted, tried to load random page from my bookmarks, crashed again. Fortunately that time it didn't take my whole computer with it. Guess I'll try again in a few weeks?

Try updating your video drivers, that sounds like a crash caused by exercising hardware acceleration.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This made me laugh, WTF does "purpose of software development" actually mean? That phrase is itself a misunderstanding waiting to happen. :-) Yeah... Ok, I probably deserved a bit of a snarky reply -- I missed the 32-bit requirement for silverlight in the release notes (apparently their sandboxing for 64bit is broken). Just for that oversight, I'll take my lumps. I do think, however, that you're thinking in a binary…

Okay, so it sounds like you misunderstand the process of software development. You can't completely rewrite various subsystems for performance and fix bugs at the same time. There is more going on than just 'adding new features'. New software is bound to be unstable while it is in development. If you have a problem with this, do not download beta versions. Personally, I haven't had any issues at all with stability or…

(Since I don't particularly care about my karma at the moment, I guess I'll continue beating this dead horse :-))

And here's my snarky rejoinder: Hey look! There are bug fixes and new features in the latest beta. How did they do that? Perhaps they misunderstand the software development process!

What you have described is some ideal model of the development process based on something you think should happen. It doesn't exist, and it doesn't happen that way.

No one is reading what I wrote: their priority is messed up (in my opinion). Software development is very much about priorities.

You can decide that youtube functionality might be important for mac users for them to even continue testing the beta (e.g. no they(I) aren't(am not) going to keep launching another browser for every you tube video when they could just use safari). Or you can decide WebGL and audio (audio? really?) bling which a precious few will be using even in a year, is somehow more important.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Installed Firefox 4 Beta 8 on my Windows 7 32 bit machine. Went to the demo page, waited for it to load, hit the start button, and my machine immediately crashed (black screen, no hdd activity, not responsive). Rebooted, tried to load random page from my bookmarks, crashed again. Fortunately that time it didn't take my whole computer with it. Guess I'll try again in a few weeks?

Sounds pretty serious. Have you reported the bug to Mozilla?

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, so it sounds like you misunderstand the process of software development. You can't completely rewrite various subsystems for performance and fix bugs at the same time. There is more going on than just 'adding new features'. New software is bound to be unstable while it is in development. If you have a problem with this, do not download beta versions. Personally, I haven't had any issues at all with stability or…

(Since I don't particularly care about my karma at the moment, I guess I'll continue beating this dead horse :-)) And here's my snarky rejoinder: Hey look! There are bug fixes and new features in the latest beta. How did they do that? Perhaps they misunderstand the software development process! What you have described is some ideal model of the development process based on something you think should happen. It doesn'…

I think their priority right now is to not fall so far behind Chrome that catching up becomes a serious challenge.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Flash video crashes constantly and it still doesn't work with netflix. Who cares about crappy 90's style GL demos? SOmehow, it seems priorities aren't quite right at mozilla, IMO.

So you would rather they stopped trying to innovate and implement new features on the B E T A version because it doesn't play youtube FOR YOU? Mozilla's priorities are right where they should be, on adding features and fixing bugs. The fact that you found a bug should be reported. But who gave you the right to tell people what their priorities should be just because they don't fit your agenda?

If you want to watch youtube videos or have a multitude of extensions at your disposal, why would you try a beta version of the software when the stable version suits you just fine? How about if you stop being a smart aleck and contribute by reporting your bugs, just make sure your not being obnoxious about it as you're being now.

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