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Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://dotnetwizard.net/soft-apps/firefox-3-beta-4-disabling...

The correct way to do this is to install Mozilla's Add-on Compatibility Reporter. It lets you selectively disable and report those add-ons that aren't working correctly on new versions.

Link to Add-on Compatibility Reporter: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/15003

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Flash video crashes constantly and it still doesn't work with netflix. Who cares about crappy 90's style GL demos? SOmehow, it seems priorities aren't quite right at mozilla, IMO.

Perhaps you misunderstand the purpose of software development.

There is a stable version of Firefox (version 3.6), you can download it at http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/. Mozilla is also adding new features to Firefox in an effort to enable web developers to do new things in new ways. Development and stabilization of these new features is ongoing, which is why it's restricted to a beta program in the next version.

What would you prefer? That Mozilla abandon innovation completely and concentrate utterly on stability? That you not be allowed to participate in beta testing the next version of the browser? If you don't want to test Firefox's new features in the unstable version then perhaps you can avoid running the beta and just stick with the older version.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Flash video crashes constantly and it still doesn't work with netflix. Who cares about crappy 90's style GL demos? SOmehow, it seems priorities aren't quite right at mozilla, IMO.

Use the 32-bit version of Firefox for Netflix. See the release notes here: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/4.0b8/releasenotes/

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Terrible usability issues on Win7. Almost all of the menus have a problem with flickering and/or disappearing elements.

I ran into similar problems when I first got beta 7 on Vista. I ranted about it on and on to my friends (among other things it trashed all my bookmarks). And then the whole thing crashed. And when I restarted FF, it prompted me to reinstall beta 7 again, and everything was fine (happily using it now).

So I think your problem is with a buggy install/upgrade, rather than the beta itself. Not sure how you can trigger a reinstall (dunno, do dumb things till it crashes), but yeah.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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Terrible usability issues on Win7. Almost all of the menus have a problem with flickering and/or disappearing elements.

Are your graphics drivers up-to-date?

edit: to add, I'm on 64-bit Win7 too -- I've been using nightlies for over a year and haven't seen anything of this sort.

Re: Firefox 4 Beta 8 has been released

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post #13

Flash video crashes constantly and it still doesn't work with netflix. Who cares about crappy 90's style GL demos? SOmehow, it seems priorities aren't quite right at mozilla, IMO.

Perhaps you misunderstand the purpose of software development. There is a stable version of Firefox (version 3.6), you can download it at http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ . Mozilla is also adding new features to Firefox in an effort to enable web developers to do new things in new ways. Development and stabilization of these new features is ongoing, which is why it's restricted to a beta program in the next version. W…

This made me laugh, WTF does "purpose of software development" actually mean? That phrase is itself a misunderstanding waiting to happen. :-)

Yeah... Ok, I probably deserved a bit of a snarky reply -- I missed the 32-bit requirement for silverlight in the release notes (apparently their sandboxing for 64bit is broken). Just for that oversight, I'll take my lumps.

I do think, however, that you're thinking in a binary way about this. It's possible to add new features and fix bugs at the same time, ya know. It's possible to prioritize stuff even in a beta... you don't just pile on the shiny new because you slapped a "beta" sticker on it.

It's a beta release, not an alpha, and the eighth beta release. Right on the durn frontpage is says it should be stable enough for normal use in most cases. I would classify youtube as one of those cases.

As soon as the 7th release came out, it was broken in an obvious way vis a vis youtube video on some platforms. They had months to fix it. Mozilla obviously decided that WebGL bling was more important...

...and that's fine, they can do what they want and yes, it's a beta release and webgl is cool, but I still think their priorities are screwed up.

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