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The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

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Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

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The UX of cassettes was very useful for sharing and swapping music or speech, and for resuming where one left off. Because of the linear tape, the cassette's "playback cursor" was stateful and independent from whether the medium was read-only or not. Playback resumed at (nearly) the same spot as it was last stopped, even if moved to a different player. Successor formats didn't have this property. Interestingly, Sony…

When I was a student I worked up a mix tape for a girl I was into. I spun the tape to the start of the second track then gave it to her. Next time I saw her I (casually) asked her something she could only answer if she'd heard the first track. That meant I knew she'd played it through, then rewound it and played it again.

That's pretty genius. 18-year old me would have never thought of that.

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

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it's not the name it's how and why it was on a tape

> how and why it was on a tape I think you're overthinking the whole thing, it's not really "on" a tape. It's the default operation of a tape, they didn't have to come up with the idea, it's a side effect of the medium. You need a motor to move the tape, no motor = no movement = the tape stays in its current position. To automatically rewind the tape you'd need some sort of mechanism under tension in it which would p…

What I really want to know is whether the fact that a standard pencil could be used to manually wind a cassette was an intended feature or a happy accident.

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

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> how and why it was on a tape I think you're overthinking the whole thing, it's not really "on" a tape. It's the default operation of a tape, they didn't have to come up with the idea, it's a side effect of the medium. You need a motor to move the tape, no motor = no movement = the tape stays in its current position. To automatically rewind the tape you'd need some sort of mechanism under tension in it which would p…

that's what I was hinting at. Did the designer really think about it or was it just naturally there.

They didn't think about it.

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

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It did ruin the minidisc, when Sony decided you couldn't get digital data from the disc.

there's an alternate universe where MiniDisc replaced floppies in the early 90s and became the main storage format.

Sony actually relased a slightly different MiniDisc for data storage with computers.

https://twitter.com/lazygamereviews/status/10304629860270653...

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

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there's an alternate universe where MiniDisc replaced floppies in the early 90s and became the main storage format.

Sony actually relased a slightly different MiniDisc for data storage with computers. https://twitter.com/lazygamereviews/status/10304629860270653...

ohhh 1993.. I had no idea. I remember late 90s MD-data

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

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The Walkman is a classic case of how an entrenched competitor with deep pockets couldn't really stand in the way of an innovative product. I point this out because, whenever you come across an idea for a startup, you'd inadvertently find one or more businesses already built around the idea, sometimes with ginormous funding or income. Remember how iPod beat Walkman, Firefox gazumped IE, Zoom sped past WebX, stripe poc…

> Remember how iPod beat Walkman No. No I don’t. Who the fuck was still using a Walkman in 2001?

The mp3 players of 2001 were so fucked up that keeping your Walkman in use wasn’t uncommon. Not among techies maybe but regular people, many of whom didn’t even have a computer yet. How would they even fill their mp3 players? (And even the techies could sigh - rip CDs? Download mp3 from ftp sites?)

On many occasions it was still easier, even in 2001, to dub a CD to a cassette than juggle the computer gear.

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

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The UX of cassettes was very useful for sharing and swapping music or speech, and for resuming where one left off. Because of the linear tape, the cassette's "playback cursor" was stateful and independent from whether the medium was read-only or not. Playback resumed at (nearly) the same spot as it was last stopped, even if moved to a different player. Successor formats didn't have this property. Interestingly, Sony…

ahh yes.. but then there was the endless rewinding and fast-forwarding to find the part you wanted to hear.. CD's were a welcome change back to the random access of records for many

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

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I remember after they came out with portable CD players, at first lacking any sort of skip protection it was pretty much unusable for any action sports.

At the time I enjoyed snowboarding at a local ski hill and I used my Walkman well into the life cycle of CDs making remixes of all my favorites tracks off CD's onto one cassette to listen to for the snowboarding session.

Best part, no skipping! (This was around 1997)

Some of the later Anti-Skip that was like 45-60 seconds would be doable, unless you are going over some moguls but for cruising without much hopping/tricks I'm sure some Anti-Skip in the 30s range would have sufficed.

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