Live data from Hacker News

The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

stereogum.com

51–60 of 180 posts

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

#51

I have a D6C Walkman Pro -- bought in, I think, 1990 -- that still works (or did last I tried it, anyway, maybe a couple of years ago). Great little deck; with metal tape and Dolby C, did a fine job recording CDs.

I found a Discman outside a store bin. It's partially failing but I'll attempt fixing it.

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

#52
post #42
post #41

disclaimer: listening to music using headphones while bike riding, roller-skating or skiing is now strongly discouraged (still acceptable while taking a walk or unglamorously using public transportation however).

By who, for what reason?

The same people who demand you drive with your windows down lest you become a hazard to your surroundings when you can't hear them properly.

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

#53
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because the device group is a different entity than the media group. Unfortunately the media group made enough money to start dictating things to the device group which didn't single handedly ruin it, but definitely opened the door to the Korean rivals that weren't bending over backwards to stop consumers from using their devices.

It did ruin the minidisc, when Sony decided you couldn't get digital data from the disc.

there's an alternate universe where MiniDisc replaced floppies in the early 90s and became the main storage format.

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

#54
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I enjoyed reading your comment, and couldn't help but thinking how I miss this time. The joy of bringing something physical to somebody - a cassette, a vinyl - for their listening pleasure. The feedback loop from the act of giving and receiving. This whole idea of physical sharing made the music more personal and magical. Nowadays I have shared playlist for family and friends, and it lacks magic.

I missed it too. So I went ahead and got an old, refurbished harman/kardon cassette deck after months of research about different cassette and deck varieties. Learnt about type 1 (ferric), type 2 (chromium dioxide) and type 4 (metal) cassettes. And now when I get back from work in the evening, I put on a cassette whilst making dinner. Or when I have friends over. And I let them pick the cassettes, which is always rat…

> a lot of metal and classical music

I find this part of your comment interesting because I have noticed such an overlap among a number of people versed in music. I wonder if there is a good way to explain this.

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

#55
post #41

disclaimer: listening to music using headphones while bike riding, roller-skating or skiing is now strongly discouraged (still acceptable while taking a walk or unglamorously using public transportation however).

sadly I have to admit that riding a bike is not a mindless activity in most places. lack of attention can cause collisions

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

#56

I have a D6C Walkman Pro -- bought in, I think, 1990 -- that still works (or did last I tried it, anyway, maybe a couple of years ago). Great little deck; with metal tape and Dolby C, did a fine job recording CDs.

Those go for some serious money these days.

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

#57
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because the device group is a different entity than the media group. Unfortunately the media group made enough money to start dictating things to the device group which didn't single handedly ruin it, but definitely opened the door to the Korean rivals that weren't bending over backwards to stop consumers from using their devices.

It did ruin the minidisc, when Sony decided you couldn't get digital data from the disc.

IIRC one of the reasons was that the MiniDisc used lossy compression (ATRAC) to store audio onto the disc. So you couldn't actually store music digitally onto it, at least not the amount advertised. This was before MP3 was widespread, I remember people were upset that when they bought MiniDiscs they only got a lossy copy.

Later revisions added higher capacity and digital storage but it was too little too late.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiniDisc

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

#58
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I missed it too. So I went ahead and got an old, refurbished harman/kardon cassette deck after months of research about different cassette and deck varieties. Learnt about type 1 (ferric), type 2 (chromium dioxide) and type 4 (metal) cassettes. And now when I get back from work in the evening, I put on a cassette whilst making dinner. Or when I have friends over. And I let them pick the cassettes, which is always rat…

> a lot of metal and classical music I find this part of your comment interesting because I have noticed such an overlap among a number of people versed in music. I wonder if there is a good way to explain this.

It is indeed interesting. I'd say that it has to do with:

- complex structures (not necessarily always 4/4 or 3/4)

- variations in dynamic range (loud parts vs. quiet parts)

- storytelling / philosophical themes (the human condition, freedom, suffering, literature)

- intense "solos" (Mendelssohn insanely fast yet moving segments on the piano vs. Petrucci going crazy on the guitar)

- mastery of musical instruments (particularly true in progressive metal, but metal drummers, guitarists/bassists and keyboard players tend to play at a very high technical level)

- song length (like Seventh Wonder's "The Great Escape" at about 30 mins)

None of these individually are unique to either genre, but taken together, we can start seeing quite a bit of an overlap.

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

#59
I feel it's time for boomboxes to come back. Not purple medicine-pill bluetooth players, but big ol' boxes you can put on your shoulder and Fight the Power with 8" speakers. There was a whole movement around playing music out, now we just inject it into our ear canals.

Nostalgia... or genius?

Re: The First Sony Walkman Was Released 40 Years Ago

#60
post #35
post #11

The UX of cassettes was very useful for sharing and swapping music or speech, and for resuming where one left off. Because of the linear tape, the cassette's "playback cursor" was stateful and independent from whether the medium was read-only or not. Playback resumed at (nearly) the same spot as it was last stopped, even if moved to a different player. Successor formats didn't have this property. Interestingly, Sony…

I love how you conceptualise things based upon what seems to be your familiarity with DB cursors, stateful interfaces and other CS concepts. You're absolutely right, of course - it's just an interesting choice of conceptual frameworks to position your analogy within. I'm sure a non-programmer could also identify this property of cassettes as a medium, but they wouldn't be anywhere near as precise, nor use anything li…

Note that “cursor” (Any part of a mathematical instrument that moves or slides backward and forward upon another part.) predates databases and computer interfaces.
Post reply on HN