Please release the Linux-flavoured Windows desktop OS Microsoft.
Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
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Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
IT made them do it for good reasons though. Managing a large number of users and workstations in an enterprise environment is one of the things that Microsoft stack stands out.
Pull the boundaries in. Provide all of the enterprise services through the web. Provide hardened VMs for those services that can't be migrated. Suddenly your workstations are thin clients, and it doesn't really matter anymore if someone decides they want BYOD. Now you can get after the actual interesting problem of intellectual property theft and corporate espionage. Things which the firewalls of old did nothing to p…
Provide all of the enterprise services through the web.
Thats like 10 years of projects right there
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Developers get special treatment, because the nature of their work often require them to have local admin access. But the majority of people do not need that, and if I'm in charge of company network and security, I would not allow anything but approved machines on the internal network.
> Developers get special treatment, because the nature of their work often require them to have local admin access. That is extremely rare at larger b2b enterprises
Each and every organization I've heard of that did that, reverted to give developers local admin pretty quickly because the requests to the IT administrators for every time a developer needed admin to install a required dependency, start whatever at admin to debug, change reg settings, test installations, ect.
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
#84Prediction for the future: Microsoft will open source Windows but sell commercial support packages for it. Windows server will be offered as a compatibility layer in Linux on top of Docker.
That's very unlikely atleast in the near future due to things like https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/?p=98755
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those are extremely poor analogies. You listed two things entirely irrelevant to a business as comparisons to a key component to a business. "Satya Nadella once used a linux computer" is the category of thing you listed. "Apple building android phones" would be a better snalogy for this.
> "Apple building android phones" would be a better snalogy for this. Not really. Apple selling Android phones at Apple Stores is probably the best analogy.
Apple opening an electronics market and selling washing machines, iPhones and Android Smartphones and a lot of other things.
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
IBM is not a serious player in the cloud segment.
Did you forget that IBM bought Red Hat? It's one of the strongest cloud players now.
I did not however, RedHat is not even remotely close to be one of a strongest players. IBM is hoovering around 10%ish, RedHat has no cloud offering that could be taken seriously. Most of the cloud vendors are competing in the public cloud segment (even though with VPC this is arguably more complex question) while RedHat focuses on private cloud, offering mostly OpenStack.
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
#87Microsoft should do an Apple and build the Windows 13 on GNU/Linux.
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which problem space is that? For group policy part cfengine, salt, puppet are far better (group policy is just modifying windows registry and manipulating files although at first it seemes a bit like magic). For authentication we have kerberos, which Microsoft pulled in from the free world beginning with Windows 2000. Kerberos does not fly in the Cloud world though.
Have you ever actually done that - managed a large fleet of desktops and a productivity suite, all on Linux with no active directory? Complete with whatever the Kerberos equivalent of a backup DC is?
The problem with AD is that it is for windows only. It does not fly for managing Mac and Linux desktops. So that gives us salt for example, which has clients for all three.
The second problem with ad is that if you need to manage any complex settings, you'll need to write your own templates. The included group policies are only for basic level os management + some for basic level Microsoft office managment stuff. Anything else and it's scripting + manual work and AD is only for distribution and selecting hosts/users where to apply those settings.
And yes, I've managed multi thousand workstation networks with AD. Do not recommend it.
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
#89Microsoft should do an Apple and build the Windows 13 on GNU/Linux.
I also prefer a GNU userland, but Dave Cutler and his team did a pretty serious job with the NT kernel.
A post from a blog I like a lot about how Linux and NT aren’t so different: https://manybutfinite.com/post/how-the-kernel-manages-your-m....
Re: Microsoft developer reveals Linux is now more used on Azure than Windows Server
#90I am on one hand glad that Linux is being adopted, but
I am mostly sad.
We only have two operating systems now Windows and Linux. (MacOS for the desktop as well).
It becomes a mono culture, and it takes away healthy competition and innovation.
I want many more operating systems, not fewer.
I with MS would make it free to run Windows Server, (something they move towards with the CLI only version). In order to hopefully increase adoptation.
I dont think that will happen as long as MS has a lot of enterprise custoemrs who are paying huge for the Server licenses.